I hope Bungie removes them has an enemy,because it doesn’t make sense for them to keep fighting us because we know they can’t win and are on the verge of extinction. It’s only logical that most of them would decide it isn’t worth it anymore and try to make peace like Mithrax did I want to see Eliksni at the Tower

Simply put: no There are still countless fallen hostile toward humanity, and house salvation is nowhere near weak. In fact, once Xivu Arath is dead, we are more likely to see allied cabal, as they only must fight becuase of a deal with her.

I feel like calling them fallen is insulting, they are Eliksni Also from a lore / story perspective, totally. From gameplay perspective hell no, they are an interesting enemy to fight I like the captains, heavy shanks and marauders

Why are people saying that there is an alliance coming? Just because 4 or 5 guardians work with a group of fallen? Have you forgotten the other tens of thousands of guardians that would kill any fallen on sight or the millions of humans that utterly despise them?

[quote]I really feel like Bungie needs to commit quickly to fully 'sunsetting' fallen as enemies soon, ideally within a few seasons honestly. The way Bungie treats the fallen has started to feel very 'have your cake and eat it too' if you will, and with an apparent alliance between guardians and cabal on the horizon, i think its time for Bungie to make a change in the game that would actually be cool for once. (Posting in lore because i feel like its a discussion of specifically the fallen's position in lore rn, and how that contrasts with the language inherent to gameplay, but mods feel free to move somewhere more appropriate if this is the wrong place). Tldr; Im thinking about a video game too much lmao stasis go brr[/quote] So. I do agree. And depending on what they do and how they set it up, the Scorn could easily take the place of the Eliksni. However, at current it does make sense to keep three/four warring factions. House Light, Spider’s Crew, House Salvation and House Dusk. All have wavering ideals so it does work, but eventually Salvation will die out unless absorbed into Xivu Arrath’s army or because they die out similarly to House Wolves or joining House Light or Spider’s Crew. As for the Cabal, at current we have 3 active factions in the system. The Cabal Loyalists, Caiatl’s supporters and the Red Remnant. Whilst Calus isn’t in Sol his forces do remain and considering Caiatl is making a push to get the Red Remnant back on her side, we could see her take over. Again, that does depend on how the story develops.

Fallen become non hostile Scorn replace them all over the solar system Win win