There NEVER will be a “Balanced” sandbox. Never has been. Never will be. Get over it. Adapt or Die(in game). Use the Meta or Don’t. Another Meta is right around the corner for you to complain about. Take a breath.

Jotunn is the answer to the meta cancer. Fight disease with disease.

If people ever figured out that hand cannons aren't even the best weapons in the game, people might stop using them so much. But considering hand cannons are the favorite weapon type of the community, it won't change. Almost all of the primary weapons in the sandbox are very well balanced and there aren't many changes that could be made without ruining it.

Don’t say anything about Handcanons,you will get downvoted to oblivion They don’t know that real handcannons have a fraction of the range of long guns because of the short barrell Edit...I know comparing real guns to a video game might have been a bad comparison ,because they have to balance the game out,but I just get tired of the focus and the best lore centering around HCs, they have been the Meta since Rise Of Iron ,actually before that with TLW and Thorn and Bungie keeps giving them more range and less damage fall off than they should have.

120 meta is so stale already. I think they need to revert one of the two changes for them, either keep the range and put the RPM back to 110 or vice versa. Would be nice if the amount of flinch they dealt was reduced, too. Scout Rifles have their own full set of issues. Map design and how agile players can be already put them at a huge disadvantage; they receive far too much flinch and output too little, many have too much zoom so the user experience is poor and their perk pools are truly awful. Only 1 non-Sunset Legendary Scout with Dragonfly and Kill Clip but 2 with Hip Fire, 2 with Osmosis, 3 with Slideways and 3 with Threat Detector. I understand the need to have not-so-great perks in the game, but why do Scouts have to be bloated with perks that encourage you to use them in CQC? Coupled with typically low Stability and Handling stats, you really have to force yourself to use them most of the time. Doesn't help that all the maps with long-range lines get taken out of rotation because players whinge about not being able to Shotgun ape easily on them, a la Equinox.

sorry but, if you got beat by a HC using MIDA.. you missed, you didn't hit your crits and got beat.. its simple as that.

None of the maps are scout rifle maps. They’re too small. Midtown is the only one where there are sightlines long enough for SRs to outperform hand cannons.

Mida Multi-Tools Max Fange is around 60-70m, a 120 Handcannons is at max 45m.

Instead of Season of the Hand Cannons I want a Season of the Auto Rifles or Scout Rifles. Time for guns like Suros and MIDA to be top dog again

MIDA kills faster than all 120s unless they have a damage boost which at that point you shouldn't be engaging them whatsoever. Sounds like user error to me.

Well HC's sinply have to much range and the small maps don't cater rifles too. Sad but True that HC's are most of the time the most powerfull weapons...boring...but a lot people seem to like that crappy guns otherwise they wouldn't cry that hard if one season we have a auto meta for a change.

Jade Rabbit is better than Mida and all hand cannons at long range.