That's not all they'd have to fix to get people to come back. CBMM puts new players against the most toxic sweats. Stacks don't play objectives in favor of just farming kills to pad KD and KDA. Bungo intentionally does all these things because the top 10% can't handle facing each other and demands Bungo serve up newbies so they can feel good about themselves, oblivious that the noobs who are forced fed to them leave and don't come back because [b][i]nobody wants to play against top tier players when they have only 30 hours in the game[/i][/b]. Never mind the relentless toxic "get gud hurr hurr", teabagging, and DMs sent afterward. OH and the "if you don't like it, leave" response a lot of people here get when the complain about anything in the previous paragraph. We'll now they're gone. Sucks doesn't it? The meta is HC and shotgun like it had been for the last 3 years except the 4 months where auto rifles reigned Supreme. It's stale and stagnant. Warlocks need buffed, hunters need nerfed, titans are fine...for now. The playlists are boring (since everyone just farms kills, every Playlist is just clash. Your choices are long clash (objective) or short clash (regular clash)). Iron Banner is stale, there's no reason to win comp so it's dead. Even if comp weren't dead, sweats and streamers like QP since Bungo serves them trash players to pad their egos and serve as YT compilation fodder. In short, PvP is built for the top 10% of players, very few of whom would be that good if the meta weren't so forgiving since HCs and shotguns basically make everything whack a mole. Plus since they all very rarely have to face each other, all their numbers are inflated since they're all facing players below their skill level. Dedicated servers are what sweats want. To have fun is what normal players want.

See what happens when bungee takes notice of sweats. They change it to cbmm and most of the player base refuses to play. Then because the sweats cannot got on 50 kill streaks because everybody has left the youtubers who called for cbmm start ditching the game as well. I hope bungie learns this lesson well , never take notice of the minority who are always shouting the loudest.

PvP should just be removed from the game, so we can focus on NOT catering to cod kids, and actually crafting a worthwhile PvE experience. Duuuurrrrrrr PvP kEePs DeRsTiNy aLiVe DURRRRRRRRR

It's unplayable soooo.....yeah most nope out.

Define "no one"

90% of the people complaining about stasis are F2P players. You want your cake and eat it. Buy the freaking cake first!!! Simples

PVP is dying? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! That’s the best news I’ve heard all day.

- "CBMM" didnt do a favor to its popularity, none liking to be the cannon fodder - stasis is just p2w, while the DLC beeing overpriced - CBMM working still with p2p, so if one quits the whole connection is fked up - issue of cheaters, carrys and recoveries in end game - no new maps - no motivation, three games for powerful, so you play cuz you enjoy it (if you dont have dlc, its not fun at all) -........ That list could go on, but I am happy, that crucible got a better focus on it - from Bungie! Idk who allows Luke to do his "direction" of the game, but it wont end well for it. I didnt buy this DLC, and I am a new light player. The vets should stop supporting Bungie, so they starting thinking and doing something about the game. Right now its just a cow, and they keep milking you with this amazing "content". How does it come that people believe Bungie with their "we gonna change it in Season of xxxxxxx...." No they wont, the only thing Bungie does, are empty promises. They wanted players to get more dust, if you have only 1 char, but right now both types getting less dust, the one who got one char and that ones who playing on all three. Eververse change, where is it? I dont see it. D2 is a typical f2p asian MMO game now, and its not a compliment for Bungie!

Bro it's not just PvP. Let's not pretend. This season / annual expansion brought a 1 hour story. 5 hour fragment / grenade grind. 1 strike if you don't count the D1 reskin. 0 crucible maps. Adpets with mods that are worse than current options. No new trials armor. A mediocre vendor refresh. Prophecy dungeon... Again? Not to mention sunsetting pissed [b]a lot[/b] of people off and put them off the game. It's a slap in the face to the people who grinded for years for a good spare, mindbenders, retold, beloved, erentil, gnawing, duke, true prophecy, dust rock, waking vigil, pinnacles, etc. All that time invested and you can't even use them in strikes. [b]-blam!-ing strikes[/b]. The playlist that truly serves no purpose other than a free powerful every reset. Sprinkle in some stasis cheese. Broken guns. Broken maps. No response from the developer. Community imploding and blaming each other for the state of the game. Yea. No one is playing. The game is ass. It's not the PvP community not the PvE communities fault. It's Bungie. They suck ass at their job but boy they sure like eververse.

January 04 Crucible: 357k Trials: 54.5k LargePittance: [i]No one is playing pvp [/i] [spoiler]source: warmind.io[/spoiler]

Play 3 rounds Get weapon parts Leave Wait one week Rinse and repeat See how low you can get your KDA Mines about 0.51 I think at present Take the challenge 😂😂😂😂

Or you know, nerf shotguns