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ZayOsiris Gamingにより編集済み: 1/3/2021 8:54:35 PM
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How To Fix Shatter Dive, & Glacier Grenades:

I genuinely love both abilities, but [i]Shatter Dive[/i] & [i]Glacier Grenades[/i] needs a rework, in PvP. Here’s how to fix them: [b][u]Glacier Grenade:[/u][/b] [b]1[/b]: Throwing your grenade creates an icewall, that has a startup animation. (I.E; Lighting Grenades | Storm Grenades, etc) It’s about a 1.25 second startup animation, before the glaciers appear - in full force; Giving players a chance to avoid the attack. And reducing the immediate ability of hunters shatter diving into glaciers. [b][u]Shatter Dive:[/u][/b] [b]1[/b]: Give the ability a 5 second cool down, per slam. [b]2[/b]: Make the ability a Linear descend, with minimal directional push, depending on your jump height. About 2.5 meters forward from max height. [b]3[/b]: Shatter Dive now has lesser / greater damage, depending on the height of your descend. Lowest at 25 damage, highest at 60 damage. You can only shatter glacier crystals from a mid level height (mid double jump height). Single jump height requires two hits from shatter dive to shatter glacier crystals. [b]4[/b]: Shatter Dive no longer has damage reduction while descending, in PvP.

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  • As it's good to have at least one warlock actively using his brain for this other than shouting nerf and babbling nonsense about hunter mains, there is a bit of an issue. Your nerf idea includes too much done to it, which would result in the problem being solved by ripping away it's viability. What needs to be considered is what can be done that'll keep a reason to use shatterdive without keeping it in its state. The good things to your idea is the take away on damage reduction and putting a target on glacier grenade to acknowledge it plays a huge part in this, but the other nerfs seem like a bit much and the glacier nerf would make it feel a bit too clunky. We also need to consider that not just hunters have this combo and the combo in an entirety is the problem, so Titans need to be considered more openly in the issue. Let me add on an alternative idea that considers your idea for a "start-up" time, but let's make one that keeps it's original uses while lowering its shatter combo strength. I think that in a brief amount of time after the grenade comes up it should have a "hardened" period where it can't be shattered in an instant by any shatter. The idea seems simple and would avoid hurting shatter abilities too much while making the shatter combo not an instant death by giving you a chance to move, and the harden can give it more use as a wall.

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  • Warlock melee is just as easy.

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  • Wow actual feedback, too bad some hunters are in denial or just don’t want it changed and will just downvote

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    • Nope. You obliterated my warlock be darn if do the same to my hunter.

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      • Ghostfire239により編集済み: 1/3/2021 2:27:08 AM
        I’m sorry but this is just flat out overkill. All that needs to be done to Shatterdive itself is remove the damage resistance, and add a short cooldown after every 2 uses just like Icarus dash and Shatterslide. That’s it. The Shatter icewall combo itself is not all that crazy. The Whisper of Fissures fragment is the problem because it increase the damage of shatter effects by a significant amount. The nerf you suggest wouldn’t solve that issue, not to mention that Titans would still be able to do the OP version of the combo just fine since almost all the nerfs here are directed at Hunters. Nerf the Fissures fragment and the shatter combo becomes much less effective. Shatter combo problem solved

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        • 1.2 seconds on the animation? I could make a sandwhich and eat queso in that time frame.

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