I want to touch on 2 things. #1: Our money funds the events and the game, not just one or the other. But since bungie is a business, they also do it to fund their livelihoods. So to everyone that says it's free...no it isn't, because we aren't donating our money, we have people paying for a product that others get to take advantage of. So if every single person stopped buying microtransactions and bungie earned no money, they wouldn't be creating this stuff for us. Somebody gets paid to do it and somebody is paying for it. It's only free to those who DON'T which tricks people into believing bungie just gives it to us, which is not the case. Could they create stuff at no expense or charge directly for the content? Absolutely, but the psychology of it will have you investing more in the future because it's "free." How do you think free to play games survive or thrive excessively? Because somebody else is paying to support the game you take advantage of which extends it's longevity and only gives them and you more time to invest in it. It's a game inside of itself and it's why mobile games literally make millions, because they are "free." How do you make money if it's free? How do thousands of players end up not spending money on a product that produces stuff on a regular basis? Are the ones creating the content charity workers? No they sure as hell aren't. #2: This coincides with what I said above. So if we the consumers stopped paying for their product, eventually they would have to bow to us and not the other way around. When we the consumers ask for improvements, we are entitled to better products because we ultimately fund what they create. When you believe that you have no power over a company, you need to understand that a company might not care if it's just YOU leaving. But as more and more people leave, they will take notice and begin to make changes to either retain their remaining audience or do something to bring them back. We the consumer fund what they produce. It is not some one way street where the producer gets to do whatever they want at our expense. Though people are pretty content with letting this happen because they see it as a "luxury," when Iin fact said luxury wouldn't exist without proper funding. The awful ea sports games get to run rampant because their players are ignorant to the power they have. They don't WANT you to understand how important you are and so they deceive you into believing you have no power. And so what happens? Year after year they make a worse and worse product but line their pockets with gold as you suffer. Governments are literally having to step in to ensure that these greedy -blam!- don't keep ringing out their consumers and that is EXACTLY what happens when people just get content with SHIT. I'm not saying people should just stop paying to get what they want, nor should they ask for outrageous things and expect to have them. But people need to understand that...none of this shit we have "no entitlement or power over" would exist if not for our funding. And when funding starts to take a hit, guess what happens. They start to "listen." What happened to year 2 of d2? They "listened" because people were leaving in droves. So where does ALL of this apply to destiny? Bungie can keep making mistakes because some other people will fund them for us. They can make hundreds of thousands of dollars off of people who are content with whatever they produce, and so anybody who might have a legitimate concern could simply be ignored because a couple of people MAY leave, but who cares if they leave if some other person justifies their excessive spending as "funding the game." Yeesh that was quite a tangent for today. Wonder what kind of comments I'll get.

Do you know what's interesting? Not one single person on your post that thinks the events are "free" has provided a link/proof that it is. Opinions are not fact people and before the normal ones that like to troll me come at me saying "you didn't provide a link the shop does". The OP got the link from me from D1 that shows all of you are actually wrong thinking the events are "free".

They infact .....are free events. End of discussion.

That’s still free...

Never mind the base game and all the expansions up to this point, the season passes, eververse that made 600+ million the last 2 years, etc... never contribute the cost for the events, right? People need to wake up especially the ones that use the word "free" in this game. What it all comes down to is that the ones using (free) usually have nothing to say at all when a legit argument is placed in front of them, and they try to use that to either trigger players on this forum or to try to use that to justify Bungie's deliberate poor actions on not wanting to put effort into this game creating new loot. Here, why don't the ones that play this little game go look at a lot of other games that offer events, and try to show me they don't at least try to come up with new loot to chase and contently copy and paste loot as this company actually does? Yes, some do, no need to explain the obvious. But some have the respect for their player base to at least put the effort into their game, unlike Bungie. Edit: Personally, I wish the moderators would get rid of the players that constantly harass others because they don't like what somone posted. Take me for an example because I get all kinds of attention because I post things about this company and game some don't like. Now, it's true that a lot of it is negative, [b](but it shouldn't be okay for the moderators to allow players to constantly harass me or other players on this forum trying to make them feel like trash because they don't like something someone said about the company or game.)[/b]

The rewards you got for Eva you didn’t have to buy them you just had to do a community quest. Yes Eververse had things you can buy with silver but that wasn’t part of the community event. So in a sense the community event was a free added thing you didn’t need to pay for.

Thank you for pointing this out. Either everything is paid for, or nothing is. Bungie claims the game is “free to play,” yet charges for Eververse and DLCs? Confusing to say the least. Perhaps we should revisit the definition for fee, I-I mean FREE! Yeah that’s what I meant to say! 😏

Absolutely, bungie, only because OP does not enjoy being able to participate in a holiday event with the option of not paying a single penny in order to do so, please remove the entire event for everyone.

They’re not free in exactly the same way [i]nothing[/i] in life is ever free. You act like you’ve discovered some hidden truth. Here’s another: when your local market has a “buy one get one free” sale, it’s not really free, either, since they’re recouping the investment through other avenues and increased traffic. Amazing! [spoiler]And meaningless.[/spoiler]

Except that holiday events exists as a sidekick activity and are not related to eververse sales, except for the fact that eververse holds majority of the items available from the event.

And what was your entry fee for dawning? Did the game stop you from participating and said pay X amount? If it didn't say anything then kindly take your criticism and shove it back in your pocket. Your post is spam...and not even good spam.

Yeah that was D1. A lot has changed since then. Its not a justification or defense for Bungie, its just a bad comparison on your part.

Dude, you haven't even played since April 2020. You've already voted with your feet by walking away from the game. I agree that Bungie lacks consistency and seems to make up policies as they go. Maybe it's just time for you to let it go and move on from the forum too. Bungie pisses me off sometimes but I still like the game itself so I continue to play.

You may think Eververse is a problem, but here's the real problem, [i]we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold.[/i]

We’re still trying to quote 2014-2016 bungie for 2021? Is change that scary to you guys? Lmao

Let me get this straight. The destiny community was destined to fail this event because we were way behind. Bungie had to step in to help us meet the community goal so that we can get the exotic rewards. But once we got the reward we were still unhappy and still -blam!-. Don’t you see that this is a problem here. Yes, bungie have made some questionable decisions, but here they are helping out the community to get some rewards for the holidays. Yet, instead of being grateful for them, you guys criticized them of the rewards. So ungrateful.

If I may put my tinfoil hat on, does anyone think the outcome of the event was predetermined? If no one participated, was there any way to tell? Couldn't Bungie simply create the results and simply have designed the event as simply a small add-on from start to finish?

How much were you charged for the event again? 1. Unless you bought from Evereverse, then you really aren’t in a position to complain about the money. 2. If you did buy from Eververse, you got what you paid for at the time. Bungie just reinvested part or all of that money into the game to benefit the community as a whole. You attitude is what people speak of when they say “[i]entitled”.[/i] Bungie didn’t [i]owe[/i] us a seasonal event.