There are two cultures of the community, each though will have its own small sub-cultures that branch out from its main ideals. First, those that will support Bungie and will happily throw $$ at the screen (as LS said himself in an ViDoc) no matter what happens. They are die-hard Bungie Defenders and Streamers, though the Streamers usually flitter between both groups depending on their needs and wants. Second, consist of new players (before they have time in the game and at some point will fall into the first or second culture), disenfranchised players, casual players and those who have not lost the hope yet that the game will become better. I have done my share of using the community forums threads to try to get Bungies attention on the things they are doing wrong with no avail. Over the years I have read thousands of threads from the Second Culture requesting change/don't do it Bungie to no avail. Bungie has not listened at all and neither has the community leaders. When will the Second Culture learn that Bungie will never listen and take your concerns to the drawing board? Every thread that is done will not be read or passed on and fall to the Forum History. Bungie will only listen to the Frist Group and primarily the Streamers. I have stopped playing for 2 years now, my son though plays from time to time with his $ that he earns. Change will only occur if Bungie's bottom line is hurt, that means Eververse and Game Content sales. If the sales fall to a line that financially hurts the company only then will they listen. Change will be pretty be much overnight.