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12/12/2020 7:24:14 PM
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Heavy machine guns are in a horrible state atm
Patently useless for boss dps... their are better add clear options... all but one or two exotics are garbage in crucible... just sad
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Run a shotty for yellow bar enemies and sniper for ranged shots in your first two slots but have Lead From Gold on both. Run a masterworked lmg of your choice. Put double lmg scavengers/finders on your armor. Use heavy for trash mobs and enjoy your endless supply of orbs for supers. I'm telling you, this setup is fun as hell.[spoiler] lol what primary?[/spoiler]
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5 通の返信
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Yup, they even get outgunned but primaries in crucible. They have decent range but are easily flinched and have trouble winning gun fights. Outside of exotics they have no place right now. Even for ad clear they can be outmatched by many other options. Thunderlord, heir apparent and xeno are pretty the only worth while lmgs. The new raid one is the best legendary but even that doesn't feel good enough to use for any end game content.
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Who would ever want to go against a single target with a Heavy maching gun? When Stallone or Schwarzenegger wave this kind of gun, it is about the masses and big boom. Why do you want to be different, pitiful Guardian? :xd Jokes aside, I used to play either Hammerhead or 21% Delirium for roaming planets and Strikes and I miss both of them like mad. The only one that I partially like is the Seraph Heavy machine gun. But when I look at my playtime, I think I did play for half an hour with the Thunderlord outside of when it was about bounties. That's also a way to retire an entire archetype of weapons. Take out the good ones, do not replace with same quality. Done.
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3 通の返信This is that slippery slope that leads to power creep. I agree that Heavy machine guns are not in the best of places, but they’re not unusable. There’s just a handful of better options. People play the game in such a rush all the time that they only want to use the most optimized weapon loadout. So any weapon not doing the absolute most DPS is never used. You don’t have to play that way. You can use machine guns if you want. You just may not one-phase a boss.
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3 通の返信
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2 通の返信For PVE: SAW with Vorpal+Spec mod OR AP-Rounds+Mulligan+Spec mod decent against boss and ad clear. Vorpal for more damage against boss+champs or AP+Mulligan to return ammo for longer shooting. SAW+Witherhoard+Ikelos SMG is some combo with auto-loaders or hunter dodge. Works in PvE and Gambit and witherhoard kills spawn warmind cells when seraph weapon in hand and adds that DPS. PvP: id rather use sword for just 3P peeking, but raid mg propably or thermal for luls if you have stability with quickdraw+snapshot. Melts fast if you hit, but terrible on ammo. Xeno still king in pve and pvp, but sometimes you just want to use something different.
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3 通の返信GalaxySpiderにより編集済み: 12/14/2020 8:16:17 AMHeavy =/= Boss DPS, for some cases. LMGs and Rockets are meant for crowd control and never were an option for Boss DPS (except for very exceptions during tjis franchises lifespan) and they perform better than any special or primary here, justifying their existence. Making LMGs DPS monsters would mean you could almost one shot every regular enemy including majors and other guardians. Combined with the high ammo reserves and mag sizes, every other weapon type in the heavy slot would be pointless then. It's called Power Creep.
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3 通の返信The raid machine gun with reconstruction, zen moment, and backup mag is amazing. It’s not quite Hammerhead but it’s pretty close.
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1 返信My saw with clown cartridge, vorpal weapon, and global reach on my gear strongly disagree. There is however no place in the game where clearing ads is required. So I give you that.
