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12/3/2020 6:49:55 PM
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Absolutely Hate the New Lost Sector System

What I hate about it is that it is the ONLY option for getting any of the new exotic armor pieces that I paid my money to obtain and play with. That's not to say that I should have turned on the game after the update and they landed in my lap. No. Because that's the other extreme. Bungie is seemingly incapable of finding middle ground. It's always one extreme or the other. With ONE exception... Cloudstrike. See, Cloudstrike was done correctly. It was a rare drop that only came if you got Platinum by the end of the mission but you can run it with friends and randoms to play and grind to your heart's content. Why wasn't this same middle ground applied to this? The correct answer is to purposefully pad the playtime for the majority of players. That's it. It's not content, it's padding. This is how I would have done EVERY new Lost Sector when it came to exotic grinding. Legend: With team, exotic piece is rare. Solo, exotic piece is uncommon. Master: With team, exotic piece is uncommon. Solo, exotic piece is common. BUT! I would have added something extra to sweeten the pot for the players who love challenging themselves in these sorts of endgame activities. Legend: Only solo, exotic ornament is rare. Master: Only solo, exotic ornament is uncommon. This way, players who enjoy the bragging rights of doing these Lost Sectors solo can have something to show-off in an exclusive ornament for each of the new exotic armor pieces. So, when a Lost Sector is showing Arms or Head as a reward, that's your chance to also unlock a unique ornament that cannot be gotten any other way if you solo it. Now, players who like a challenge can earn a reward that those of us who don't have the same time to dedicate to the grind and play with teams cannot obtain unless we choose to. CHOICE! I swear, every post I've made criticizing this company and this game comes down to the COMPLETE lack of choice for players. The "git gud" players are IN NO WAY hindered in their gameplay if us "oh no, filthy casual" players have an option to getting the same rewards as them. Hell, throw in a special Emblem that can only be unlocked if you complete all new Lost Sectors solo, too! There! Now they can have unique ornaments and an emblem to ensure the rest of the world knows just how good they are. I have completed several runs of Lost Sectors, now, and got one drop for my Titan. The new arms. Which, by the way, are garbage in almost every situation minus patrolling a destination. So, I've done it. But it's not fun. It's mostly infuriating. I want to play with friends and grind and try to earn those rewards but this is another example of Bungie not understanding their OWN GAME! Aren't we Guardians together? Except for the Crucible, aren't we meant to be working together? Oh, wait, most game modes in Crucible are about team-based combat, too. So why are so many challenges, bounties and, now, Lost Sectors focused on doing things solo? Even fighting against YOUR OWN TEAM because you have to get the final blow on that enemy for it to count for whatever objective you're doing. Can we please have more options for grinding these new exotics? Make it rare with teams and uncommon solo to balance the odds of a drop. I'm fine with running it several times to get that drop to finally happen but it just feels so unrewarding and deflating to waste 10+ minutes for RNG hell to show me all I was fighting for was a chunk of Glimmer in the end. I want to play with friends for these grinds and I know I can't be the only one who finds this less "fun" and far more frustrating.

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  • I honestly hated this system when I found out they were locked behind the solo clears. I tried a few times in the 1230’s and got my ass handed to me. I got my warlock to 1250 just so I can attempt again. I’m now 1266 with the artifact. Now the legendary lost sector are easy to clear, takes me about 8-9 minutes. The first one I cleared, I got the Dawn Chorus warlock helm first try. Today, I tried 5 times at the legendary lost sector on Europa and got the Necrotic Grips. Sure, I had good luck and got them with not much hassle, but I’m actually enjoying this system. I’m not casual, but I’m not one of the elite players, that’s for sure. This was a challenge for me. I’m not one of those player that can breeze through any content no matter the level. I have to adapt and apply new strata and go through trial and error to complete the higher level stuff. I didn’t think I would end up liking the legend and mastery difficulties, but I do. I actually don’t mind that these exotics are tied behind the solo clears. Gives people something to work for. Its refreshing since 90% of the exotics in D2 have literally been handed to us since Vanilla, to the point where people are tired of getting exotics. Just my opinion, I’m for this system. BUT I like your idea on the solo clears for ornaments. I think that would be cool if implemented in some way.

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  • Sir_Latviaにより編集済み: 12/4/2020 3:59:27 AM
    As far i see it, they have included various different exotics. Most are via a quest or a specific mission. I dont see anything wrong with them being locked behind a legend lost sector. Im not being funny but ive managed to get to 1260 (artifact included) by just doing the pinnacle rewards in 2 weeks time and doing the raid once. You can run a 1250 lost sector at even 1240-1245 in about 10-15 minutes without that much trouble. All you need is to use correct mods and appropriate loadout. Yes, the drop is still random but its not exactly a long grind to complete the sector once. If you cant complete no matter what, one answer, no matter how cliche and over used - get better which is more of a general statement towards anyone and not you, the TC. However, i do agree that maybe they shouldve made the 1250 sector uncommon instead of rare. Or even if they left it at rare, make master a 100% guaranteed drop on first completion.

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    • The one thing I will absolutely agree with you on is that the Titan arms are garbage.

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      • Can your replies be anymore childish? No one is going to come back you up when you reply like that. Grow up a bit ya? This isn’t all about you.

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      • [quote]What I hate about it is that it is the ONLY option for getting any of the new exotic armor pieces that I paid my money to obtain and play with. That's not to say that I should have turned on the game after the update and they landed in my lap. No. Because that's the other extreme. Bungie is seemingly incapable of finding middle ground. It's always one extreme or the other. With ONE exception... Cloudstrike. See, Cloudstrike was done correctly. It was a rare drop that only came if you got Platinum by the end of the mission but you can run it with friends and randoms to play and grind to your heart's content. Why wasn't this same middle ground applied to this? The correct answer is to purposefully pad the playtime for the majority of players. That's it. It's not content, it's padding. This is how I would have done EVERY new Lost Sector when it came to exotic grinding. Legend: With team, exotic piece is rare. Solo, exotic piece is uncommon. Master: With team, exotic piece is uncommon. Solo, exotic piece is common. BUT! I would have added something extra to sweeten the pot for the players who love challenging themselves in these sorts of endgame activities. Legend: Only solo, exotic ornament is rare. Master: Only solo, exotic ornament is uncommon. This way, players who enjoy the bragging rights of doing these Lost Sectors solo can have something to show-off in an exclusive ornament for each of the new exotic armor pieces. So, when a Lost Sector is showing Arms or Head as a reward, that's your chance to also unlock a unique ornament that cannot be gotten any other way if you solo it. Now, players who like a challenge can earn a reward that those of us who don't have the same time to dedicate to the grind and play with teams cannot obtain unless we choose to. CHOICE! I swear, every post I've made criticizing this company and this game comes down to the COMPLETE lack of choice for players. The "git gud" players are IN NO WAY hindered in their gameplay if us "oh no, filthy casual" players have an option to getting the same rewards as them. Hell, throw in a special Emblem that can only be unlocked if you complete all new Lost Sectors solo, too! There! Now they can have unique ornaments and an emblem to ensure the rest of the world knows just how good they are. I have completed several runs of Lost Sectors, now, and got one drop for my Titan. The new arms. Which, by the way, are garbage in almost every situation minus patrolling a destination. So, I've done it. But it's not fun. It's mostly infuriating. I want to play with friends and grind and try to earn those rewards but this is another example of Bungie not understanding their OWN GAME! Aren't we Guardians together? Except for the Crucible, aren't we meant to be working together? Oh, wait, most game modes in Crucible are about team-based combat, too. So why are so many challenges, bounties and, now, Lost Sectors focused on doing things solo? Even fighting against YOUR OWN TEAM because you have to get the final blow on that enemy for it to count for whatever objective you're doing. Can we please have more options for grinding these new exotics? Make it rare with teams and uncommon solo to balance the odds of a drop. I'm fine with running it several times to get that drop to finally happen but it just feels so unrewarding and deflating to waste 10+ minutes for RNG hell to show me all I was fighting for was a chunk of Glimmer in the end. I want to play with friends for these grinds and I know I can't be the only one who finds this less "fun" and far more frustrating.[/quote] So you suck at the game that’s why the new system also sucks. Why don’t you just get gud kid.

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        • They are honestly really easy

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        • AdligerAdlerにより編集済み: 12/4/2020 1:30:23 AM
          Sucks for you. I like it.

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        • I really enjoy them.

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          • Or just get good. Simple as that

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          • Here's one for you I hate PvP. I hate trials. But guess what, if a new exotic I wanted was behind trials I'd pony up and get good. Git gud

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          • I'm just guessing here... but mad cause bad...

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            • illzにより編集済み: 12/3/2020 11:33:38 PM
              It takes 3 minutes to run the lost sector lol What would an ornament from a 3 minute lost sector show? 😭 You keep telling people who have commented, 'swing and miss' but you are mistaken. [b]it takes 3 minutes to finish a lost sector[/b] You say its a challenge, but it isnt. You say you want choice, you have it. Choose which 3 minute lost sector you want to do. You paid for a game so exotics shouldnt come from lost sectors? Riiiggghhhht. Let me guess swing and miss? I dont think so. If we have gotten to the point where 3 minute lost sectors for exotics is a challenge worthy of a bible sized rant, then i think its more of a you problem. Even if it takes 30 runs (happened to me) that is 3 minutes x 30. Which is approx 90 minutes for a brand new exotic. Its end game stuff. Its new. Its exotic. You do it yourself with no carrying. It honestly sounds like you are struggling to efficiently farm them which again, isnt bungies fault. Have a great day

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              • Huh... Hey, guys! I found a really useful button, apparently. Did wonders. XD

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              • You are highly entertaining. Reading a one of your comments definitely got a chuckle out of me. But yes locking the new exotics behind solo completions and only solo is rather annoying

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              • Don’t like it, don’t play it.

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                • Just wait until it's Bunker 15 and let the AI droids do all the work

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                  • everwillingにより編集済み: 12/3/2020 9:48:52 PM
                    Well I absolutely love the new lost sector system....again Bungie has the impossible task of pleasing everyone . Isn’t going to happen , for years solos have been asking for unique activities....and here we are 🤷‍♂️

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                    • [quote]I want to play with friends for these grinds and I know I can't be the only one who finds this less "fun" and far more frustrating.[/quote] And for 5 years people who wanted an activity that they could play solo that would allow them to access the best loot in the game were told, 'Go to LFG. This is a multiplayer game." While I understand your frustration, because you don't enjoy playing difficult content by yourself, at some point the game has to tell you "No." No, you can't have everything you want, and sometimes you have to do things that take you out of your comfort zone. At the end of the day, this is the ONLY content that has any loot of significance attached to it that was designed to be soloed. You have a choice here. You can see this as an obstacle to war against...or you can see this as an opportunity to learn from. Because learning how to do stuff like this by yourself, will make you a better player in difficult mutliplayer content.

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                      • Thought it was a great way to get new exotics I wanted....

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                      • Mara Sov’s Step Broにより編集済み: 12/3/2020 9:48:28 PM
                        Get good? It's easier than the nightfall and to be honest if you aren't good enough to clear it - you probably don't need exotics anyways as you probably aren't doing high end content. Sure they're fun toys but like really... It's not that hard a d you really don't need them if you aren't doing high end content. Like seriously. No way in hell am I wasting my time clearing this for an emblem. I cleared it because I want the exotic. Get good. I'll never understand this mindset of casuals in games thinking they need the top gear. Like... If you aren't doing challenging content you don't need good gear.

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                        • May I ask what it is that you find so unenjoyable with the lost sectors? There are a few sectors that I hate as well, but since the rewards rotate you can wait for one of the easier ones. I have all but one of the exotics and my power level is barely above 1260. If I can do it, so can you and I'll happily help you with gear and strategy if you need it. ...oh and make sure you check the power level before you enter. I missed that first run and thought it was the worst feature ever until I realized it was a 1280 sector and I was only at 1220 ;)

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                          • Guarantee you it got downvoted by all the "git gud" punks I mentioned. Ha!

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