[quote]Honestly was on the fence with buying BL and the season pass. I havnt missed a release in all of Destiny, but was feeling a little off with the sunset. Was waiting to see a nice amount of interesting weapons and perks added to chase and grind for....but we literally got pennies. 23 guns, almost all are undesirable archetypes, and the roll options are super bland. Is this game still meant to be a looter shooter? What am I chasing, where’s the excitement? Exotics look dope and Hawkmoon will be fun, I guess, but I just can’t help but feel releases are getting more and more shallow when it comes to gear and carrots to chase. Thoughts?[/quote] Totally hear where you’re coming from, but would you rather a total refresh? The issue was power grind and people being too restricted to a small set of load outs. It is a looter shooter still. There very well may be a roll for new weapons you haven’t seen yet that may surprise you. I don’t think you should give up on the game. There’s so much more to come this season! You’re only two days in. You might be surprised.

Remember when the first game received loot refreshes with every content drop? Every tower vendor all with new and exciting things to earn! That was D1. And the sequel can't manage this?!

Black Armory added 31 guns and cost $12. About 1/4th of the price of Beyond Light. And didn’t sunset any previous gear.

I don't think we're playing the same game...

So basically, what I've been able to gather up until now: The expansion is much smaller than Forsaken, has a short-ish story yet again with fewer weapons while most of the previous weapons have been sunset... but it all costs more than before. I'm so glad I quit lol.

I play Borderlands 3 since some weeks, it has SO MUCH LOOT! If I had to spend 50€ on a looter shooter, that would be Borderlands 3 season pass.

I can't speak to the rolls/archetypes as i've not looked myself. But for the broad question I feel like i'm satisfied with what we got. Seems to be a tad bigger than shadow keep. Considering Shadowkeep is the minimum i'd expect out of an expansion that seems fine. Though I don't know how much of this is because we have a brand new subclass. Luke Smith admitted recently that they can't really make forsaken/TTK sized expansions anymore since the departure from activision. Which is a bummer but is fine for me. Destiny as a franchise became very clear to me as a game that isn't fun enough to play "just because." I've always been far more invested because of the lore/story side of things. So I guess if you're someone who only cares about gameplay itself than I can see why less content (esp with sunsetting) stings. However it's just the reality we have since Bungie decided to go independent. I'm willing to work with what they feel they're capable of. It seems like they're mostly receptible to feedback as we see a continuing of them attempting to improve the game. And that's all I can really ask. Back when Bungie announced Destiny and showed us concepts/teased us with their pitch my mind went flush with possibilities. It took awhile but I eventually learned to accept that what I personally want from the series isn't the same thing they want. This has helped me come to enjoy Destiny for what is is. And probably why I don't fret about things as much as most do here.

Who still remembers when Cayde-⁶ said there'd be loot? All that loot is now sunsetted, 😷.

Can't wait to see a certain someone try to defend this and move the goal posts to his favor yet again.

I play Borderlands franchise more than Destiny. Borderlands is the inspiration for Destiny's basic model but WoW Boy Smith has royally screwed over the franchise. Borderlands does drown you in loot. You can be powerful and equip all slots with Legendaries = Exotics. Destiny is a constant powergrind that is not fun to play. Fun is Borderlands. I still poke around Destiny because when it first came out I played it faithfully and bought everything. Now I do Free to Play because , in my opinion, it is not worth the money. They gutted FTP and are bring back pieces of D1 as new? Overall I play it as nostalgia.

Big thing I've noticed is the direction they went with the armor 2.0 with mods and transmog. I am not a fan of those 2 things. I liked chasing armor that had stat perks on it like the weapons. It was exhilarating to get a piece of armor that finally had hand cannon loader. Now with the stats, I have the trials armor and nothing is going to beat that armor, so why would I want to try and get other stuff that won't come close to the stat line. Yeah I could "transmog" it but that is just a waste to me. This game has turned into a weapon chase. They need to get rid of the season model and focus on bigger DLC's. But I think you will run into this problem even if they gave you a vendor refresh with armor. Cause it goes to my point again....why would you choose vendor armor that has shitty stats. It used to be how cool the armor looked, now its how much stats does it have.

its getting monotonous because thats exactly what it is. Theres no wide variety of things to grind for, its just THE exotics, and ... what are they now... are we no longer doing pinnacles or whatever? I can never keep track. Anyway. Theres no VARIETY there to keep people interested. We are on basicly a frozen version of the moon with less of a hive asthetic, grinding the SAME EVENTS we have grinded since Year One. The art is lovely but everything else is suffering.

Came here to see if anyone thought like I did. N here you are :) there's no new guns worth even equipping, nonstop drops of old weapons, boring AF

Godfall comes out later today on PC hopefully that's cool then cod the cyber punk I'm really not gonna worry about it this expansion is ass and unfortunately probably the last I buy. These constant half assings by bungie are just getting annoying

Guns feel weak. I feel like im just tickling the enemies. I think that was there goal all along, make the gameplay harder by making you weaker. Its not compelling gameplay to just dump hundreds of rounds into tanky enemies. If that was the case, I'd still be playing the Division. See how it feels once i hit the hard cap.