We tried the scouts / pulse rifle meta before...you don’t remember everyone standing in back of the map camping lol?

Well if you are speaking about playing tactical with a team and long range rifles...yes i remember. I prefer that much more then a 2 year hc meta or that one shot special weapon crap what we have now. Opinions may vary.

[quote]Well if you are speaking about playing tactical with a team and long range rifles...yes i remember. I prefer that much more then a 2 year hc meta or that one shot special weapon crap what we have now. Opinions may vary.[/quote] Considering your idea of the better sandbox was the worst sandbox in destiny history. ( the sandbox that was a large part in the game almost dying btw ) ima say you have the wrong opinion

Well the game is now dying btw. anyway we won't agree

Playerbase wise its no where near the state of y1. And were also about to get a huge player base increase with beyond light so cool.

Y1 was not f2p. And beyond light will increase maybe for a few weeks and then there will be even less players then now. Even if not way to less for a so called triple aaa game whicht status this game not deserve btw.

[quote]Y1 was not f2p. And beyond light will increase maybe for a few weeks and then there will be even less players then now. Even if not way to less for a so called triple aaa game whicht status this game not deserve btw.[/quote] Im not gonna argue with someone who just thinks because they dont enjoy a game its dead. Numbers are numbers.

Good Idea. For me there is nothing to argue. Sinply my opinion. They ruined my favorite titel more and more. Just disappointing how you can ruin such a promising title. And i know I am not alone. Numberd proof that.Like you said numbers are numbers. But good for you that you still enjoy.

Its not about my enjoyment of the game (which lately hasnt been too great). Its just something that really annoys me about the gaming community as a whole. People will start disliking a game and then find some other people who share the same beliefs and then they believe the game is really dying. When its not. Atm we have no reason to believe D2 is dying. Anyway sorry that the direction the game is going isnt ideal for you, its not for me either but luckily for me its close enough.

d2 is dying since it came out. It did suck for a lot people when it came out and from there it went even worse for so many reasons. Player numbers in comparison to other aaa games are a joke. And bungie never managed to give us back the good feeling we had in d1 simple as that. That outdated engine and that they alone simply could not do the heavy lifting of a game as service game are major reasons for that. From all the ingame problems like cheaters, reissuing etc.and hundreds more reasons I don't even start. It's my opinion and obviously the same of many and not just a couple. Alone the 200 clan members i played with which stopped are just a small part of it. But like I said enjoy your game. I am just fed up of getting served reheated food. Major new games are coming out with the new consoles i'll find my fun there.

[quote]d2 is dying since it came out. It did suck for a lot people when it came out and from there it went even worse for so many reasons. Player numbers in comparison to other aaa games are a joke. And bungie never managed to give us back the good feeling we had in d1 simple as that. That outdated engine and that they alone simply could not do the heavy lifting of a game as service game are major reasons for that. From all the ingame problems like cheaters, reissuing etc.and hundreds more reasons I don't even start. It's my opinion and obviously the same of many and not just a couple. Alone the 200 clan members i played with which stopped are just a small part of it. But like I said enjoy your game. I am just fed up of getting served reheated food. Major new games are coming out with the new consoles i'll find my fun there.[/quote] Your 200@ clan members argument is exactly what I was talking about lol. You get a large amount of people to agree with you and it clouds your judgement. Im not defending destiny at all, there is a lot of dumb stuff that they have done and stuff they continue to ignore. But the games not dying. If you want to keep piping on about it dying go on. Almost every game ive ever played has 1000s of people claiming the game is dead/Dying and while your enjoyment of it may be dying. The games not dying. Also about the magic of D1, no matter what they do youre not getting it back, magic cant be replicated it was created by a whole bunch of factors in your life and nostalgia.

Well if you feel happy with that thought so may it be. I stick to my thought and the numbers and be happy too.

What this means is you prefer people of no skill and cheese over people with pure skill

Oh and HC arnt cheeae yea right bro you are dreaming a fantisy

Hand cannons have less in the mag more recoil and less range. Not to mention that their ttk goes up dramatically if you miss even 1 headshot. Auto rifles have little recoil high range and almost no penalty for missing shots. They also have a higher mag size and overall have a better perk pool currently (majority) please learn the facts before you make a dumb comment pal

Than peekshoot witch is the wasy you should use em but I guess you dont have a brain and only know how to spam and rush

Assault Rifles have tons more range, faster ttk, more forgiveness for missing, delivers more flinch, and has about 40-50 rounds in a magazine. HC have less range, slower ttk, is not forgiving for missing anything, delivers moderate flinch, and has about 10-15 rounds in a magazine. I mean what it seems like to me is that you must be one of those people to say that ARs take more skill than HC. Lmao you must also main ARs and MT

Sure pal let me peekshot when someone is sitting their pre firing with 100 rounds in the mag with an auto rifle. Once again, you need to know what you’re talking about to have a real debate

[quote]Sure pal let me peekshot when someone is sitting their pre firing with 100 rounds in the mag with an auto rifle. Once again, you need to know what you’re talking about to have a real debate[/quote] Exactly. 😂 I swear, I’m so sick of seeing HC haters pretend that a minor advantage like peek-shooting makes handcannons top tier no matter what and justifies any nerf to them or buff to other weapons. HC’s could have a 2s TTK that requires 5 headshots, and people would say they’re competitive because they can peek-shoot. 😂

Idk what auto besides sweet beusnis has 100 rouds. And he will land only a shoot or two peer peek so I dont see the problem. The only problem is the HC community that only wants to use HC. If anything else shines the light it automaticly (pun intended) needs a nerf just couz you can use your fav gun for once in your life. Than get good all the top tier players still use HC with great resoults so dont -blam!-ing try me.