[quote]okay like with me it’s the opposite with thorn. i shoot it and it feels weird but i’m tapping heads so🤷🏽‍♂️[/quote] It’s just weird. I’ve never been the best at PvP, but it’s basically all I play. It’s fun. In PvP, thorn is almost unusable for me with what I described in my last post. When I bring it into PvE though...damn. I could snipe a shank with it from another landing zone