No. 1. Warframe is a fraction of the size of Destiny’s player base. 2. Warframe was an [i]awful[/i] game when it was released but was able to go through its growing pains out of the spotlight. 3. Warframe is allowed to get away with one of the most obnoxious, pay to progress monetization schemes in the business. 4. Warframe doesn’t have a player base that is constantly trying to pull the game in contradictory directions. The game is what it is. You either like it or you don’t. You either play it or you don’t. As to Destiny’s player base that endlessly complains.

Okay...I get warframe has content. But its funny people praise it so much when every mission is a variant of 3 mini maps with the same objectives. The game is grindy as hell, takes you a whole week just to get a guns frame and then you have to wait 3 whole days for it to craft. And of course the only way to make that go faster is to buy plat or grind even more and hope to god what you have someone will want. The only way to look good is to buy things.... Youre saying this is better than destiny? Warframe gives no service. If your new good -blam!-ing luck. If youve accumulated millions of resources and weapons and plat sinc the release of the game then yeah, I bet its fun. Because you mop the floor with anything you come in contact with. So I think your opinion is total shit. Just being real with you. That game is almost as bad as Fallout 76, at least destiny has a story with characters. Not a bible of lore that takes forever to collect and in the end makes no sense, and not a single memorable character except the guys you're trying to kill. This game caters to OG players only. They just added so much -blam!-ing shit new players run away because nobody wants to load in and see 6,000 quests, be stuck with the same guns for 2 months, not be able to customize themselves before learning space economics and salesmanship as a life skill. I really think you play the game too much and its drove you batshit crazy. Warframe is trash. Why? Here: copy pasted maps and missions. Lack of free customizations. Lack of clear direction for new players. Lack of community support for new players. Extremely dragged on, loot acquiring process. A story more complicated than my ex wife. Lore that takes grinding to get, which how the -blam!- can you play a game without knowing wth its about?? Start the game with a story not "hey good morning, shoot these fat ugly robot guys". These developers get way too much clout for this game. They overcomplicated it with a cluster-blam!- of unrefined or controlled brainstorm ideas implemented all over the game. And the UI...its simple to use when you know how to use it. But even then its just ugly. Theres way too much shit all over it and sometimes that makes me log off and delete the game when I legit just got it again to see if it got better. Do not ever try and say that game has anything good in it. Not on this property. This here is the Destiny community. Not the neckbeard space ninja academy of space economics and brainwashing gaming.

I don’t think Microsoft is winning anything bro

Lol microsoft is winning the console wars? And Warframe is true f2p? Yeah maybe by mobile game standards.

[quote]With Bungie taking more Content then they are giving is a recipe for disaster. Seriously at this point, I get MORE Content out of Warframe then I do with Destiny and it keeps being added without removing anything content wise and it is a REAL Free to Play Game not Free to Play in NAME only that Destiny is. Beyond Light? More like Beyond good quality. With Microsoft winning the Console Wars, Bungie is losing in the Games as Service Wars cause right now, Warframe is on top in terms of Games as Service.[/quote] If games as a service is a war then the players are losing the hardest.

...Warframe is terrible. It's more of a grind than an MMO.

Here come the hordes of zombie like casual whiteknighting for Bungie.

Great job on making this -blam!- ass forum loose their shit They hate warframe with a passion, their braincells get ill from it

I hope both sides lose this war. Games as a service, though it allows for constant patches and shit, is kinda bad for consumers. Just being able to change up your game whenever you feel like it doesnt give a good bond of trust with your consumer

When Riven mods were huge I stopped playing warframe, I had finally had gotta my soma prime riven and immediately got burnt out Oh also managed to build four prime frames in the process

And y'all complain about Destiny being a complete slog of a grind with too many currencies and different resources... but think Warframe is fun 😂🤣😂🤣

Warframe removed all raids and also several activites. Increased loot grind from an already absurd level to the next stage. They completely nerfing frames here and then to idiotic levels, ruin builds with it where people spend weeks and months to get mods for these specific set ups etc. Game has like hundreds of unique guns yet only a handful of them are useful for endgame. As a Warframe player myself, I can confirm that. Reading the Warframe forums and reddits, I see just the same ammount of complaints about frames, balance, weapons, loot, drop rates as in any other game.

Warframe as a game yes it does a good job with being a f2p game as a service but the development team as well as the community are some of the worst and most toxic group people you can come around. You literally can be banned for no reason by a community member that just sits and watches the chat and good luck trying to appeal it because the dev team doesn't care.

Here for Kelly don't mind me!

I agree with you on everything else, but how is Microsoft winning the console wars?

Game is trash. Just like destiny

Console wars is still a thing? LoL and here I though everyone had a PS and an Xbox in their Homes. Who knew...

[quote] With Microsoft winning the Console Wars, Bungie is losing in the Games as Service Wars cause right now, Warframe is on top in terms of Games as Service.[/quote] First off, what on earth does console wars have to do with Bungie or Games as a Service?, Bungie isn’t aligned with either platform, and they don’t do exclusives anymore after split with Activision Secondly, I am Mastery Rank 20 in Warframe, but I have stopped playing because it’s just a farm for the sake of farming , there is no real endgame. Yeah the Warframes and there powers are cool, but your Warframe is just a farming tool in the end. And it is pay to win, if you don’t want to do the quest to get warframe parts, you can just buy them from the market. I didn’t want to farm vaults for Mirage so I just bought her, and the newest frame Protea is a bad grind to so I am waiting to buy her. The story is interesting with the Sentients getting ready to invade, but it takes DE so long to make story content all you have to do is farm and play fashion frame while you wait years for a 20 minute quest. With that said though Warfarm is the best FTP game I have played, the developers care about there players and respond to bugs and fixes a lot faster than Bungie

Remember how we all were REALLY -blam!-ING ANGRY about Railjack being such a broken mess? I mean, I love my ship, but Jesus Christ, it was easier to find randoms than convince any of my friends to do Railjack stuff. They usually told me to -blam!- off. Which is a shame, because every random in my ship should've legally had a caretaker along with them, to make sure they don't hurt themselves. And now, well, Cetus 3: The Reckoning. It got stale. Just another one. Was more fun when I started. But hey, they do downsize the game without removing stuff, that must tickle you very much, right?