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オリジナルの投稿元: Hopefully the Behemoth is an actual monster.
9/3/2020 10:09:42 PM
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Sounds like you don’t Titan right.
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  • I Titan left, thank you very much!

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  • This guy gets it! 👌

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  • Oh, I've punched everything and punched them well. Doesn't mean every single one has to be the same as the last with a different color.

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  • Punches, lunges and ranged melee. What do you want?

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  • I pretty much stated the general idea of what I'm looking for. I'd like the effects of the super to be something the base guardian can make use of but obviously with either a lesser effect or on a cooldown. Like a super leap for a movement ability (titan's don't really have any), using the charged melee in the air causes an ice slam for ice walls, picking up crap let's the titan become tankier, crap like that. Having a subclass that only makes you feel like the class you picked has gotten old. I would HATE if the titan can only create an ice wall with the ice wall grenade even though they themselves stated that the titan is supposed to be a defensive but offensive subclass. Nothing offensive or defensive about using a grenade for that ability. You get the idea right?

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  • So you’re bored of feeling like a Titan? Okay...you do realize in a class system...you’re [i]supposed[/i] to feel like the class. Classes have roles and are made to do those functions. That’s kinda 101 and won’t ever change. 🤷‍♂️ Super leap would be dangerous for you, ceilings would hurt. Lot of them in the game. Burst isn’t good enough? I think having the ability to pick which affect you want from orb pick up isn’t a bad idea. As for the ice wall...I’m appalled you failed to understand it. Stopping enemies from being able to attack you...giving yourself a platform to jump up onto as to fire down on them or pop a super and slam? By making it the grenade ability you can deploy it at [i]range[/i], say to stop a horde from closing in, and for teammates who aren’t near you and need cover. I mean...how is putting up an even bigger barricade not obvious in its defensive use? That’s obvious. Like a slap in the face. If you’re bored of being a Titan...play a different class for a while. Stasis isn’t reinventing anything.

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  • If the class is supposed to create and destroy ice...how is only having a grenade do that something relevant to the class itself if all of them can do it and it's something Ia titan would have to manually select to use? That doesn't make any sense. For creation, let me create with my fists. For destruction let me destroy with my fists. Creating crap with grenades sounds like a warlock thing. Also I never said I was bored of my titan, I just grow bored of how theyve HANDLED the titan in the game itself. The other classes have far greater diversity between subclasses where as most of the time for titans it's just the color of the attack they have with a different super. And I understand that the titan is designed to punch and be close for said punching, but that doesn't CHANGE that they can still do various different things such as the leap or slam I talked about. Unless you are gonna tell me slamming is something titans don't do? And super jumping requires brute strength like hulk (rather than fluttery movement) to get around which more than fits them. I want my titan to emphasize their strength more than just only punch and since stasis is supposed to be more than what we always do, I expect the titan to change in that way as well. Being a class that only punches while the other classes get something different every subclass is kind of bullshit.

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  • I gave you reasons why it’s a grenade and you just ignored them. Clown. Talk about not making sense. It’s not only the grenade. That you think that shows you either A: didn’t watch any videos and/or B: you’re blinded by bias. You didn’t notice the slide freezing ability? Or the comet punch ability? You also can’t whine about punching then say you want to create and destroy with your FISTS. That’s literally asking for more punching. I see you mentioned the leap again without addressing the issue I brought up, ceilings. Figures. You people never seem to want to look beyond concepts and figure out how or even if the idea can be implemented. Did I say slamming isn’t Titan? You’re the one complaining about a Titan using their fist (while asking for more fist action), not me. A good reason the melee ability shouldn’t be a “leap and slam” is....vulnerability. That’s several frames of you being a sitting duck. That’s a dangerous gamble in pve, much less pvp. Also a lack of control after you start it. Enemies move out of the way and you just wasted it. Yes, Titan supers have slamming. They also have damage resistance during super and no, that should not be given to someone out of super for the sake of a cool looking melee. I can see you thought in very broad general terms and didn’t think about how well it would play out. Titans could use some different tricks but your ideas won’t pan out. That you keep saying all Titans can do is punch across the subclasses shows you have no clue about Titans. Or your just a hyperbolic whiner.

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  • DuBChiri2により編集済み: 9/4/2020 9:08:12 PM
    Not sure why you went straight to insults but whatever. When I say I wanted to create ice walls with my fist, I meant with the slam ability that the super has, just without the super. Who cares about vulnerability when the point of titans is to unleash power at a risk like shoulder charge and all of that crap. Ballistic slam doesn't have damage resistance, shoulder charge doesn't either, how would a ground based shockwave ability be any more risky than those? I'm not asking for a basic fist of havoc type slam dude. When I ask for a super leap I asked for one like the super has. Ceilings obviously don't matter to bungie considering it is PART of the damn subclass in the super and you saying "but ceilings" really doesn't matter when MOST of the damn game isn't inside of a low ceiling building. Not to mention in the stupid ability reveal it says the titan can leap higher, farther and faster in the super...why can't I also do it out of super but on a cooldown as a movement ability? "Oh but ceilings" yeah that's a stupid reason to not include an ability when most of the game isn't inside of a low ceiling building. And where is your comments about ballistic slam and thundercrash not being great in enclosed areas? Why aren't you saying "oh bungie that was a stupid idea," because it wasn't and them rejecting a unique ability because of a handful of areas where it won't be as useful is just absolutely stupid. And just because I am tired of doing nothing but punch, which every single subclass does do, doesn't mean I'm tired of the titan as a whole. Throwing a high powered grenade on middle tree sunbreaker when the rest of the game plan is throwing your melee, isn't different. Top tree striker shoulder charges an enemy and throws a grenade or two, still not much different. Bottom tree striker punches everything. Top tree sentinel only has buffs from the melee and is built ENTIRELY around it. Bottom tree sentinel uses the shoulder charge once and a grenade once, STILL not much there. Middle tree striker uses a charged melee for a buff or slides over ammo, wow real different. Middle tree sentinel and bottom tree sunbreaker are still ability dependent, but their effects are at least different. Do I need to bring up the other classes? Guess I gotta to make you understand. Top tree Void lock, overcharge grenade for new effect. Bottom tree void, absorb grenade for health regen or hit an enemy with your melee for the same effect. Middle tree void, similar effect to top tree, but mixed with bottom tree. Top tree solar lock, can shoot in the air, can icarus dash, tracking trials shot projectile. Middle tree solar, healing grenade and support effects. Bottom tree...phoenix dive but still crap. Top tree arc lock, chain lightning grenades, chain lightning melee. Bottom tree arc, arc soul ranged lightning melee. Middle tree, arc traces and lightning ball. Huh, there's a theme with each there but none of them perform the same. What does the titans do? Punch for buff. Punch for heal. Smash with super. You see what I'm getting at now? Or do I need to enlighten you more? The slide ability is something different for behemoth and so is the melee, but the titans always have diversified melee which isn't what I'm complaining about What about sliding or punching correlates to BEHEMOTH? A monster! A monster like the behemoth should have crazy strength and the ability create tremors under its feet. Yes it does that in super...but the super shouldn't be the only thing that resembles the subclass. Let me really give you an example of what I was looking for. Can still do the shiver strike on the ground, but in the air can do the ice slam instead, like in the super. Can move around and jump normally, but can use the super jump as a gap closer to let the titan get into the fray and cause havoc. You kill some shit with your ice, you become a harder to kill beast and it refreshes those abilities so you can do it again and again. THAT'S what would shake this feeling of boredom. Something that let's the titan embody their subclass. If the warlock is supposed to be this class that freezes stuff the best, how much fun would it be to only be capable of doing that if your grenade or melee were charged. Why not have an effect where killing enemies with your weapons causes them to explode in stasis or you build up a buff by killing enemies (similar to my titan idea) to reach that effect. I grow BORED of only being my class when I have those two abilities active and with the artifacts and things like that, I hope they decide to shake up the gameplay in the way I suggested above. I've played this game since beta of the original game, how can they expect to sell me another subclass that just does the same thing the other subclasses do with a different color? Behemoth is ALREADY just ice fist of havoc, at least shake up the neutral game so it's not boring. I'm done wasting my time arguing.

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  • I just call it as I see it. The super creates several spread out ice pillars, which is a barrier. So you already have your ice wall in super using the slam. Pretty sure that’s in the videos... Who cares about vulnerability? A Titan should. You are no good to anyone dead. You’re a burden. Ballistic slam can be done with a simple jump, not a high jump. Thundercrash can arc so tight you don’t go higher then a simple jump. Neither of those are anything like your proposed super leap attack, as you clearly said it’s meant to be [i]high[/i]. Like the hulk... Like I said, hyperbolic whining. You knew this, why did you make me point it out to you? Titans have a role. Being the front line. There is no 31 flavors to doing it. It needs to be fast and hard, so you can keep moving. Otherwise you get pounded by enemy fire. You want tricks and magic shows? Play the mid range classes. They have [i]time[/i] for it. A Titan shouldn’t. Sorry if playing the same character for so long bothers you. 🤷‍♂️ D1 beta was fun, so what? You think throwing that out means anything? You’re not the only one whose been around that long.

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