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MstrofPupptsにより編集済み: 8/21/2020 1:58:26 PM
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DCV and Sunsetting: The End of Destiny?

Title These concepts spell the end IMO. Even though the experience is getting dull and boring, removing them will leave the game empty of things to do. DCV: the ultimate way to recycle content with minimal effort. Yes we see this now but it will just get worse. A nod to D1 isn't a bad idea(ex: Zero Hour),but to just bring it back with just twists is just lazy. The game needs more fresh ideas and concepts,not the same ones we have see over the last 6 years. Sunsetting: This ties in with DCV. What was the point spending countless hours and effort to get weapons and armor we like just to see it tossed to the side. Yes, I understand that if I want to keep using both I can but this is in current areas not to be vaulted. Also it's been common practice to see the power caps moved up in a major expansion, so BL will probably be 1150, thus Strikes on remaining content are out for old gear. The current rolls on gear has been garbage, its intended to make the game harder. IMO it's time to move on, too many things just seem out of place

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  • Davie4により編集済み: 8/24/2020 5:29:40 PM
    The game survived d1 and d2 launch and d1 sunset so this doesn’t really seem that bad. D1 sunset lost far better guns than this one is and at least for me d2 launch lost majority of main appeals that destiny as a franchise had for me. Problem isn’t what they are doing as much as it is a chaotic direction that seems to change wildly every few years. D1 had an endgame focused progression system with the forever 29 struggle that some of us remember plus the hundreds of hours for gjallarhorn. This gradually turned into taken king launch which is largely acknowledged as best expansion in both games with only comparable one being forsaken and different people like each one for different reasons. This was first major expansion that featured infusion and was also first one after major weapon sunset that is similar to the upcoming one. Main difference is this upcoming expansion is scrapped d3 content while taken king was largely scrapped d1 launch content. As some other replies note there is likely an issue in the environment that they aren’t explicitly stating and choosing to rotate out less used content in favor of avoiding that problem. Rise of iron got us a new slot in form of artifacts and pvp changes which largely led us to the abomination that was d2 launch where game tried hard to shoot for being an e sport and failed, which it has spent a large amount of lifecycle functionally undoing d2 design flaws that didn’t exist in d1. D2 launch was bad for reasons many reasons which anyone who played at launch can probably explain where only real plus over 1 was some general UI enhancements, ledge climbing, and class abilities. Loot game, pvp, rpg mechanics were all largely thrown out the window and appealed to a very small number of people. Forsaken was to date most areas added in an expansion, but for the most part the most notable thing, which was random rolls was functionally a slightly modified d1 mechanic they took a year to undo from d2 launch and add back. We mostly gained 2 large patrol areas with dreaming city being largely considered most impressive patrol area due to the curse mechanics that only really seemed significant if you played at launch where you couldn’t access stuff like the shattered throne until the strong curse week. Shadowkeep I don’t even know where to begin since that was first expansion in both games that I skipped until beyond light was announced, but I’m sure someone else can chime in to poke holes in it. TLDR: game will in theory eventually get a solid direction and go with it, but until then we will find the progression system and general game will change significantly over time and those changes won’t all appeal to people. I doubt beyond light will kill the game and for most part the only things people will miss is pinnacles they suffered through grinding for, which isn’t as bad as the d1y1 rng hell that led some of us to spend hundreds of hours for an exotic that we may or may not ever get. Took me over 700 hours to get gjallarhorn and anyone who played in y1 can tell you how amazing it was before it was nerfed and returned in RoI. Imo cosmodrome is better than all of the things being removed put together so I don’t consider trade off that bad even if we didn’t get Europa and new subclasses too.

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  • You guys are so melodramatic.

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  • Hahahahahahahaha "I don't like these things so obviously they'll lead to the game dying" No. People will still play this long after you and others like you are gone. And they'll be the ones that just enjoy the game for what it is, not for what they want it to be. I'm sick of seeing this crap on the forums, there's a million of these posts a day. Stop cluttering the damn site with your whining.

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    • The end for you ? Yes. I'll be glad when the whining minority leave the game. Attitudes like yours are the reason we can't have nice things in this game.

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      • [b][i]*current decision from bungie*[/i]: The End of Destiny?[/b] -Every post since Destiny 1 day 1

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        • Knox Knoxにより編集済み: 8/21/2020 6:02:28 PM
          I don't think it will end. A lot of fanbois are still in chains running the empty endless hamster wheel grind on this game. It's the end of the game for me though. I'm out, not buying any future expansions for this game anymore. That's it for me. Sunsetting killed it for me. Never ending hamster wheel grind in perpetuity. Sounds like Digital Slavery at it's finest. Game is nothing but a money milking cash cow now. I'm out! Cheers!

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          • More like the Destiny Content Dumpster.

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            • For you maybe, but this won't "spell the end" for this game by a long shot. Anyone who actually pays attention to population numbers sees that the population is and has been consistently around the same value. This game has also been top ten for population on steam since it moved to pc. If you personally feel the need to move on, by all means go for it. There's nothing wrong with playing something else temporarily or permanently. I'm currently back on the Warframe grind until the expansion hits for Destiny. At the end of the day, many people on this forum need to take a step back and realize that video games are for enjoyment. Play what you enjoy, period. No amount of crapping on Destiny will make it what you want it to be.

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            • The current game direction focuses on grind. That’s fine. The problem is that the development of new content has been severely lacking since the release of Shadowkeep. The reason for this lack of development is that the game became free to play and the emphasis was placed on the cash store to entice players and ultimately sustain the game. This business model has proven successful with other games. ie Fortnite. Destiny the franchise has been morphed into a WoW/Fortnite hybrid utilizing FOMO to drive engagement and relying on micro transactions to provide revenue. Both sunsetting and the DCV provide the opportunity to recycle, reuse, and reissue D1 content and hype it as new for D2. Speak with your wallet in November.

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              • I finally got armor worth masterworking and Bungie is gonna sunset it. It's like they enjoy pissing off their player base.

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                • I honestly hope it dies. It's like your favorite sports player that doesn't retire when he should and tarnishes the memory of the good.

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                • The DCV is more of a way to get more players to transfer from D1 to D2 I would not doubt if the destiny 1 servers shut down within the next 5 years because the DCV will let them just make D1 inside D2

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                  • So far we've seen: - reissued D1 Trials - reissued D1 strikes (in the form of nightmare hunts) - reissued D1 crucible maps - reissued D1 exotics and now we're getting a reissued D1 raid next season. Is this what we have to expect from this game now? 1 or 2 new things with the rest being stuff the majority of us already paid for years ago? Am I paying 10$ a season just to play D1 again?

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                    • You mean kind of like when they launched D2, leaving us with only 6 strikes, 1 raid, and only a tiny handful of weapons/armour all with fixed rolls? Nah, sorry but D2 vanilla (and CoO) was a far worse place in terms of amount/quality of content than Beyond Light will be, and tbh if that didn't kill it, nothing will.

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                      • Sunsetting and DCV completely killed my mood for the game.

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                        • A looter shooter game with loot that expires just to force you to replay, regrind and repurchase content seems like the final nail in the coffin of this lackluster game. Never before have I witnessed a game developer so out of touch with their players, and the game itself, but even with their own selves and previous public statements. What a spectical this has become.

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                          • I think its the start of the slope to players who are committed enough to stick around this far being unable to deny that large print neon writing on the mahoosive wall. A lot of content, locations, armour and weapons are going away. If that is not filled with something meaningful and more than just a grind its going to get a large ignoring especially with the likes of Cyberpunk 2077 appearing a week after release. Its not like people are going to say that they have to stick with it when one of the most eagerly anticipated games of recent years is a week away. I am not confident for Beyond Light right now, my son bought it for our account and even he is now starting to have buyers remorse after seeing the last TWAB and realising he just spent £60 and all he knows is what he is losing, when he saw one strike for Beyond Light he was not a happy bunny. I cant help but feel that the management at Bungie have little to no clue what players want and even less interest in delivering it. The Developer teams do some top stuff with the art design and actual mechanics of playing the game and most when seen on streams revealing stuff are pretty excited. Counter that with the drone of Smith and that other guy whose name I cant even remember he is so dull. Beyond Light right now is going to be something I dip into you when I am bored with Cyberpunk, if that ever happens.

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                            • If anyone believes they will be returning anything that gets vaulted, other than some maps or game modes, you need to get off that hose you have attached to your tailpipe. I still believe they’re are loading up D2 with D1 assets as a last hurrah before blowing off Destiny altogether for their new IP.

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                            • No it won't end the game. Stop being overdramatic Karen.

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                              • What do you mean? You can still use your old guns in old content... Old content that’s being vaulted because nobody plays it. Makes sense.

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                                • Sunset my gear, sunset my business.

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                                • Destiny goes more and more in direction of Warframe and that is not good.

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                                  • I think the sad truth is Bungie needed Activision. Since the breakup, the decisions have been some of the worst. ...and the lack of new quality content is obvious. I don't have a lot of faith in Beyond Light, but I'd love to be proven wrong.

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                                    • Is it the end? For some it will be.

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                                      • Unless people quit rewarding bungie with their money they will keep stealing content we already paid for and resell it to us a year from now. Its disgusting and i am done with bungie since implementing the destiny recycling bin. What a lazy shitshow. They are literally taking expansions we paid for away in order to sell them back to us in the future. Also selling us destiny 1 content as an expansion is ridiculous. They will respect our time and effort my a@#!!!

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                                        • Or the beginning of a new era for Destiny...

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