Survival should be skmm

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I love hearing whining and complaining about crucible. It should be removed. I have my popcorn ready for the s-hitstorm when Trials returns.

And the stacks of hardcore players harass me with messages for hours straight

lol this again. rocket league does SBMM and it makes the game better. oh right, they have servers. why are you taking a peer hosted pvp game seriously?

Keep seeing a recurring sentiment in these threads that lag is so bad because of the P2P layer. The game actually does use dedicated servers... in every sense of the actual meaning. The P2P layer is there specifically to actually REDUCE latency by reducing the forced dependency on those servers. It makes for a much more locally responsive game because the client is not lagging behind from waiting on server authorizations. Technically, it could actually run if all the player direct communications failed... because the game is actually hosted on those dedicated servers--you would just see the actual full impact of the bad latency because you would not have the buffer from a more aggressive lag compensation scheme (ie: force injected server-side latency) metering out the action. The lag problem is NOT simply because of P2P. It is because of matchmaking snafus and/or poor routing. You more readily see the raw impact is all, because it is not being masked by forced serverside delays. The lag would still be there regardless... could in fact actually make gameplay worse if matchmaking and/or routing is not up to snuff. Before people go all negative on the routing side of things, take a few moments for a little demonstration. Go to speedtest.net, change the testing server location to Century Link in Seattle and run the test. Note the latency. I say Century Link because that is also Level3, who handles the bulk of peering for Bungie, as well as a LOT of peering for most residential traffic across the US. Seattle because that is in Bungie's backyard (Bellevue. WA.. they don't have regional data centers of their own--they have arranged for regional cloud servicing). This test specifically because regardless of where you are, you MUST maintain two persistent connections to Bungie. Now pull up google maps or some other mapping/travel tool and find out the distance in miles it would take for you to travel by land and/or sea to Seattle. This is to roughly gauge the distance your packets are traveling. Now whip out your calculators and divide that distance by 124,000. That is roughly the actual speed your data can potentily travel per second across a wire (we haven't hit the actually speed of light in a vacuum, but we are inching closer to it). Now multiply that by 1000. That is roughly the latency in milliseconds you could theoretically reach between your network and Bungie's network IF you could make that trip across a single dedicated highly efficient line. Sprinkle on a few more milliseconds for your local network and a few more for Bungie's local network, and compare that to the latency result from that speedtest. Notice the difference? It is all the devices and different transfer mediums you have to pass through that ramps up the latency so much... and that is guided by your ISP's policies, not Bungie. I have seen international backbone latencies fall under 100ms, but the combined latencies outside of that transit double it (or worse) while traveling a considerablly shorter distance. That is from an routing/infrastructure impact... not a game's chosen network model.

No As I have said before in these threads, they should expand the range of the tiers, effectively removing some of the brackets.. This would allow more opportunity to better blend SBMM and CBMM filtering.

Lag has nothing to do with SBMM. That’s your internet buddy. Get off the Walmart Internet.

Facts lol it's usually here are some randoms that can't go positive goodluck!! Spend the whole match surrounded by potatoes that are slightly better then your potatoes. Survival is more fun then quickplay.

Don’t bother arguing for CBMM. Most players are potatoes and are going to defend SBMM. “You don’t wanna face anyone on your own skill level.” “You just wanna stomp with friends.” That’s all BS. They can’t understand because they’re not top players. They don’t understand these terrible queue times and awful lag. Seems like everyone is from Asia and Europe and I live in the US (all because the game has to find someone who’s top 1% for SBMM sake). If Bungie had dedicated servers, I wouldn’t care.

The answer isn't CBMM its servers. Until they move away from peer/peer then the game will just continue to suffer.

So play CBMMA LMAO.

So the other night I had a full FT in survival. Unfortunately, we went on a 3 game loosing streak, whatever, within the FT is that we had 1 guy that has a positive k/d in glory and the other 2(including myself) are below a 1.0 kd. Let's talk about ELO real quick, background etc. My FT Myself | ELO - 1463 : KD - .93(Glory) Member 2 | ELO - 1122 : KD - .81(Glory) Member 3 | ELO - 1360 : KD - 1.00(Glory) I'm going to show you the awesome SBMM right here. First game of the 3 that we lost. Opponent Member 1 | ELO - 1120 : KD - .64 Member 2 | ELO - 1901 : KD - .99 Member 3 | ELO 1598 : KD 1.64 Second game of the 3 that we lost. Opponent Member 1 | ELO - 1928 : KD - 1.19 Member 2 | ELO - 1635 : KD - 1.22 Member 3 | DNF - No Stats [b]*****This match below is where it makes no sense on how it is SBMM, if this was the case we should've never been matching with these guys especially after a 3 game loosing streak****[/b] Opponent Member 1 | ELO - 1959 : KD - 1.15 Member 2 | ELO - 2051 : KD - 1.32 Member 3 | ELO - 2497 : KD - 1.56 We called it a night after looking at the stats after this game because we had no words at that point. If they're making this based off of SBMM. Could someone explain this to me please?