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meaflareにより編集済み:
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Warlock melee range is absolute dog **** without Ophidian
Buff Warlock melee range. We have slowest melee speed in the game, so we deserve a bottom-tree striker, synthoceps type melee. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a smelly poopie head
-Warlock Melee Gang
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This is a joke but seriously, we have the slowest melees and the shortest [u]base[/u] melee range. I don't care if we get faster speed or more range. Either one will make a huge difference. We shouldn't have to use an exotic to have a slightly better than mediocre melee.
EDIT: Okay, so it lools like I'm wrong about base melee being shorter. But it's still the slowest melee in the game. It doesn't have to be faster it just has to be on par.
EDIT 2: I have a theory. Maybe the warlock (base) melees are really long, but their melee [u]lunge[/u] range is really short. In PvE, I was looking at how far my friend (hunter) needed to be to get hit. My melees were hitting, but his weren't. When switching to PvP, my melees were still long but his started to hit me unlike before. When I kept backing up, he could keep lunging at me with his melee while I could still hit him. Even though I could still hit him, it wasn't tracking him like his melee was tracking me. IDK. I couldn't get the numbers on how far away we were. He had to go and none of us had space for DARCI.
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you also have one of yhe [u]LONGEST[/u] with middle tree stormcaller, but if Bungie fixes ACD/0 Feedback Fence to D2 Standards than sure I don't mind if you warlocks get a melee buff, I actually like you guys more than Hunters in D2 whereas it was reversed in D1.
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4 通の返信TheShadow-caliにより編集済み: 10/27/2019 4:03:30 PMI miss my D1 Warlock having my melee, self res, etc... Yeah yeah for you "clever people". I can go play D1 but my Warlock should have been brought over as is. Not watered down and dumbed down. Edit: D2 needs the devs that created D1 y1 characters/gear, plain and simple.
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Ricochet 049により編集済み: 10/28/2019 11:53:06 AMOr!!!!!!! Maybe give all warlocks higher discipline. We lose a little in the puncy stuff, but get better at lobbing. Just an idea don’t loose your shit. [spoiler]generally people get really heated over the dumbest stuff here. “Facts!!!! My opinion is fact and yours is not because that’s how I see it!””[/spoiler]
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5 通の返信Woah ! Insulting people who are not okay with your opinion. What an argument... So, i'm a smelly poopie head, and I'm prood of it :)
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4 通の返信I don't understand this "we" mentality when it comes to classes. Does most of the player base really only main one class? I used to use all 3 but these days I use mostly hunter and titan only because I cant be assed to grind all 3 characters at once. Only jump on warlock when my gf wants to do story missions on her warlock when theres not much to do. One would think I'd say warlocks should get nerfs because it's the only class atm I dont play much but nope, titans definitely deserve that nerf to be less cheesy. Still the best class though. Imo warlock melee is fine, but then again I wouldn't be so sure since when im on my warlock im the dick that uses handheld grenades everywhere
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The slower speed was fine when we had longer ranges in D1, this was 100% acceptable. Them balancing everyone’s melee RANGE but not changing their SPEEDS is absolutely disgusting and 100% needs to be fix. Either balance out the speeds too or give Warlocks and Titans an increased melee range
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Either the melee is crap or it is so strong that you literally punch through your opponent and they just don't know they are dead yet. But before you can say, "Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru" they just insta kill your ass and negate the effect.
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60 通の返信Maybe because Warlocks don't exist to be a melee class. You ever consider that? I'm sick of posts like this, crying over "Why is this thing on Titan this? Why is Warlock melee slower?" Because it's called class design and balance. Same reason Thundercrash doesn't do half a bosses health in damage, Titans aren't the "boss Super" class, they deal with adds and Majors best instead.
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I’m pretty sure Warlocks still have the longest base melee range though (just not as long as it used to be). I usually find that I lunge from further distances on my Warlock than my Titan and Hunter. They also seem to have a bit more of a forgiving strike zone, like you don’t actually have to be on point like the other two to get a hit in.
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I use to tell people it’s not that big of a deal and the likelihood of that being the difference in them getting a kill is so low and mainly in their head. But then after cross save moved to pc and it’s really noticeable that it’s slower.
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17 通の返信Stop... just stop. Hunters have a LONGER base refresh on melee usage than either other class. You melee one shots , your range is fine
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5 通の返信I think it's ok to spell out "shit" on the forums. Did that get a blam? No? Cool.
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1 返信Hunter gets a throwing knife, Titan gets a shoulder charge and the Warlock gets a b*tch slap....
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8 通の返信you ever have that burning feeling that bungie just hates warlocks? like I feel like they are just pulling themselves back from nerfing them into the ground because of backlash. I don't know, it just feels like they are out to get the poor class.
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Not to mention the whole reason I decided to main a warlock in D2 is because the perks that came along with them (self res, melee range) appealed to me the most. (I mained a hunter in D1) But now that those perks are gone I’m left wondering if I should switch to Titan now. Bungie you let me down I want self res back
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7 通の返信Bungie does not respond to warlock post sadly there have been numerous threads with ppl giving really good suggestions on how to improve the warlock melee and gernade damage but bungie never responds to any warlock threads
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1 返信Vahnkiljoyにより編集済み: 10/27/2019 12:02:17 PMI would be happier if it didn't take years to recover from my melee strike, meanwhile hunters and titans are machine gun punching me in the face.
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8 通の返信[quote]Buff Warlock melee range. We have slowest melee speed in the game, so we deserve a bottom-tree striker, synthoceps type melee. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a smelly poopie head -Warlock Melee Gang ^^^ This is a joke but seriously, we have the slowest melees and the shortest [u]base[/u] melee range. I don't care if we get faster speed or more range. Either one will make a huge difference. We shouldn't have to use an exotic to have a slightly better than mediocre melee. EDIT: Okay, so it lools like I'm wrong about base melee being shorter. But it's still the slowest melee in the game. It doesn't have to be faster it just has to be on par.[/quote] They also have three jumps that are virtually identical. Slow, float with more float. Slow , float with more side ways float. Or slow flow with slightly more vertical lift float. Warlocks need some major love, especially in crucible. The whole exotic situation is laughable and except for contraverse holds ...... rely on exotics dating back to D f-n 1.
