-blam!- the weapons. What about only 3 close range maps? What about MT running rampant? What about recluse being shoved up your arse at every turn? But a hand cannon nerf was needed. Yeah good call. This iron banner is showing how unbalanced these guns are and they refuse to do anything about them. Before anyone says “only because you don’t have them, blah blah blah” I do and I refuse to use them because I’m not a massive dick.

I'm cool with getting a god roll crimils and claws.

All vendors really should have new weapons and armour each season, and factions should return how they were in D1.

And yet there is still no reply from anyone at bungie on this as usual. As I say that all I can hear is one of the community managers with the standard "I'll pass your feedback along to the team" Can they also pass along that we all hate eververse and spending more time on items there than actual content for a PAID dlc is total BS and if any other studio did this they would be all over the internet as scum but fanboys and streamers save this shit. I absolutely love this title the gunplay is the best there is in my personal taste and it's the only title I've actually played and bought all the dlc for and kept up with despite all the shit but it's starting to get so ridicules I'm gonna be surprised if theres anybody left to defend them.

This! Remember when the raid was worth doing because the armor and weapons were so good, and unique?I can’t tell you how many times I did the vault chasing the damn mythoclast. And a pair of boots to complete my wicked ass armour. Remember when strikes were worth grinding because of the strike exclusive armour and weapons that were so good and unique? Remember when crucible was worth grinding for that god roll eyasluna ? remember when nightfalls actually meant something? Remember when you couldn’t wait for reset? Remember when XUR was a big deal? I would check the forums from work to see what he had. Remember when if you practiced and put in the time you could be a god in crucible and help your friends to the lighthouse? Remember when you pledged to a faction and grinded like crazy for that badass shader, or faction exclusive ship? Remember when your time , effort, and patience and practice mattered in this game? Remember when if you were the better more experience d player , you would win in crucible? Catch up mechanics in gambit,and crucible , damage referees , forced win /loss ratios etc , useless weapons, nerf after nerf of anything that makes you feel like a god in this game,have sucked all the fun away, and now it’s a part time job with very crappy pay. Edited- eyasluna not hawkmoon

Fired up D2 today and was super stoked seeing Iron Banner. I fly to the tower and inspect Saladin....... What in the blue hell? No new weapons? WTF! What kind of BS is that? I was about to make a post, then saw this. I knew I couldn't be the only one who is pissed. =|

Take a look at the game, specifically the new gear added to Eververse and its pretty clear where the effort went. Veterans are no longer their focus, we paid for the base game and all the expansions .. they got our money and have spent it. Bungie's focus now are the new players who got the most of the game free and to whom these ARE new weapons. The ones who are used to a cosmetic store to throw money up against.

And only 3 maps. Who at Bungie thought that was a good idea? Bizarre.

Bungie has responded about vendor refreshes, not to the forums but to other sources of media because Bungie logic. This one sure takes the cake in regards to "content is too hard"

Don’t you just love how bungle ignores threads like this?

🤦‍♂️ I think it's funny how some players have been saying "Bungie added plenty of loot in this game". Sure they did, it's all stored in Tess inventory. Whoops, that's not loot to chase, that was a way to cut corners so Bungie didn't have to create actual new gear or update the vendors, let alone bring factions back, etc... You know, things that would have added actual loot? This is Bungie's big old size of ROI content? 😄 I really like how Bungie loves to talk a lot and make things "sound good" but they don't really come through. It's been getting more comical every day since Shadow keep released. Keep up the good work Bungie 👍

I just cant grow to like the new IB armor :(

the iron Banner has always been trash. The Crucible has always been trash. please look into the "sunk cost fallacy"

Stop whinging m8