It's not OP at all because its Range is garbage.
I'm so tired of seeing people make PhD reports on a particular weapon's advantages yet always conveniently discard all of its weaknesses like they don't exist at all.
If you're getting destroyed by Recluse it means you're using close-range weapons and refuse to try other loadouts, which is not our problem.
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You're basically saying that Recluse (a close range weapon) directly counters close range weapons. So by your logic, if someone is using Recluse, the counter play is to run away from them, use scouts and pulses, and back camp because the gun is so powerful that contesting it in a reasonable range is not even an option. You're a fool to think that the game is reasonably balanced at all times just because your crutch "has a weakness."
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[quote]You're basically saying that Recluse (a close range weapon) directly counters close range weapons.[/quote] Thanks for pointing the obvious lmao. And it also works backwards too (other Close-Range weapons can counter Recluse). [quote]So by your logic, if someone is using Recluse, the counter play is to run away from them, use scouts and pulses, and back camp because the gun is so powerful that contesting it in a reasonable range is not even an option.[/quote] No, I just provided one of the many ways to counter such a range-limited weapon. It can also be countered by Shotguns and Fusions pretty easily. [quote]You're a fool to think that the game is reasonably balanced at all times just because your crutch "has a weakness."[/quote] And you're a fool for assuming that someone defending a weapon = that someone uses that weapon. Here's my recent game history... https://destinytracker.com/destiny-2/profile/psn/AdimensionaI/overview Please point to any game in which I even got 1 kill with Recluse. Hint: You won't find any because I never use that gun lmao. And btw, I'm on Console and my main post was referred exclusively to that platform. If Recluse is dominating on PC, that's a seperate issue.
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The point is that the gun is powerful because of the perk. When the perk is active, it is uncontestable. And using a shotgun is lame. If I have to resort to such a low skill weapon to counter it there's a problem.
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Cool. Once again, don't care. Whether or not you think it needs a nerf on console is meaningless to me. Obviously some people think it needs one, and if it's anywhere near as bad as it is on PC, I agree.
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You said if OP thinks its overpowered than it needs a nerf on console. OP is a horrible player if they can beat recluse on console. Simple as that. It not even close to what it is on PC. If any change it should only be on PC, which isnt happening
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I guarantee the gun is every bit as powerful there as it is here, console players just Don't know how to control recoil for whatever reason. The few that actually figured out how to point the left stick down probably massacre with it.
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Its not just the recoil. On PC you can map with it. Recluse is not the same thing on console. I never use it in PVP myself unless theres a bounty asking for smg kills. There are better options in the energy slot.