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Doctor_Roidbergにより編集済み: 8/21/2019 6:28:49 AM
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To settle the recent “Throwing Knife should OHK” debate.

Yes, Throwing Knife should OHK. But NOT in its current state. Let’s look at a few things. “Throwing Knife vs. Shoulder Charge” Throwing Knife Pros: RANGED OHK ability. Throwing knife Cons: requires precise aim, if you miss you lose your melee charge. One Pro, Two cons. Shoulder charge pros: Very little aim required, if you miss you don’t lose your melee charge. (Additionally can be used for momentum transfers and as a general movement addition, but were not gonna worry about that) Shoulder charge cons: Very short range, risk of death (risk of death is a big deal. Shotguns and TLW are kinda meta.) 2 pros, 2 cons (but one is a BIG con) So I’d say in the pros/cons area there’s a big similarity. The cons outweigh the pros. People like to say that having Knife be an OHK is unfair because “there’s no risk” except that if you don’t pull off the crit shot, you lose it for a solid length of time. “It would be broken because you get the precision knife back when you get a Kill with it” The same exact thing goes for Striker, using Insurmountable Skullfort. And before anyone says it’s not comparable because you have to use an exotic, lets just remember that Striker gets a chunk of Grenade energy from Shoulder Charge kills. And before anybody says Ophidia Spathe would make it OP, because you’d have two knife charges, let’s remember that the top tree Striker Subclass has two Grenade charges INTRINSICALLY. Pros and cons people. “Oh but you could just get it back with Gambler’s Dodge” The people who say this are the same ones who will rant about how dangerous it is to try to Shoulder Charge because it puts you in Shotgun Range. Gamblers Dodge has a similar radius, and it’s not an offensive ability like Shoulder Charge people. Then let’s look at a different game, Call of Duty. Throwing Knives/Tomahawks exist in Call of Duty, and they’re even more hardcore. A Throwing Knife is a one shot BODY shot. No precision required. THAT would be busted in Destiny, hence why NOBODY IS ASKING FOR IT. So we’ve proven that a precision Throwing Knife OHK would be balanced in comparison to how other games besides Destiny operate, and how other facets of Destiny operate. [b]HOWEVER[/b] There’s one major issue with Throwing Knife that I see as the reason it should OHK. And that is the synergy it currently has with the Subclass, which rewards a chunk of Super energy upon Throwing Knife kills. This would be an issue, especially with the upcoming nerf to Super regen. A Hunter with solid aim would have a Super before anyone else. To me, that’s the primary issue. The only solution is that we need customizable subclasses. In order to have a PvP Throwing Knife that can OHK but doesn’t grant any Super energy. The Super regen shouldn’t be taken off of the current Subclass because it’s very good for PvE content as it fills your Super bar quickly. Explosive Knife also should not one shot. It makes up for it’s lack of damage by having an AOE. Tldr; Precision Throwing Knife alone would not be any more OP as a one shot than Shoulder Charge. However, it should not be a one shot if it grants Super energy as this could lead to someone getting their Super extremely fast. [spoiler]also, to those who try to justify the differences through “real life logic” A knife to the face is more likely to kill than a knee or shoulder to the chest. And those who try to justify it as “well I have a helmet 4head” every class wears armor. A Solar edged Knife is just as likely to cut through a helmet as an Arc charged Fist is. And Throwing Hammer should not one shot. It doesn’t have a Precision multiplier, and doesn’t need one. Stacking Roaring Flames or using Wormgod Caress or Synthoceps creates the same effect.[/spoiler] Didn’t include comparisons to Handheld Supernova because of similarities to Shoulder Charge. It’s practically the same thing, the only difference being a tradeoff of having more Range, but being less consistent on OHK.

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  • For much as I love using a hunter... The reason Throwing Knife is not OHK is becasue it requires no time to activate. You need to sprint to do a shoulder charge, you need to chargw the granade to do a Handheld Supernova. But a throwing knife is a quick attack. Imagine starting a gunfight against a hunter and the hunter is facing backwards towards you, he will be able to just adjust his camara, click a button and thats it, you will lose the gunfight against him. Throwing Knife is used when you land a decent amount of damage, and you are caught in a reload or the enemy runs away from your effective weapon ramge.

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