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オリジナルの投稿元: Friend Case Regarding of Ban.
8/10/2019 2:37:44 PM
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[quote]Reason I'm approaching this is when he did receive his first warning of a ban due to internet connectivity, they went out of his way upon going to a higher provider for better service. And after awhile they were fairing alright and well. Awhile later down a few months they received a ban of PVP activities, and then a few days after a permanent ban upon their device. They recently discovered that their neighbor was "Tapping/leaching" off their internet thus affecting the service and in result affected to the result of a ban.[/quote] Was it a "ban" or a "restriction"? People keep confusing the 2 different terms, but they mean completely different things. You mentioned the article, so you should know the difference and use the correct terms. Bans are permanent and won't be removed. Restrictions are temporary and will not be removed before the scheduled expiration date, again, all in the article you linked. [quote]In terms of the rules above I understand those clearly, but I find it a bit unfair to have someone go out of their way to fix their internet to play the game with others, doing their best to fix the situation without affecting other players in turn. And unfortunately in a situation where someone "Tapping" into their internet, affecting this outcome.[/quote] Ok, put yourself in Bungie's position. On their end, they see an account glitching and negatively affecting other players. How is Bungie to know the player had their connection rendered unstable due to an unlawful neighbor? Just because your friend said so? Bungie has said in articles several times, a players connection and account is their responsibility. It is unfortunate your friend's neighbor did that, but it is not Bungie's fault and Bungie has an obligation to the rest of the players. The only response you "might" get is from a BNGSecurity person once they know your friend's gamer tag and I am pretty sure they will say "reviewed and upheld".
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  • WolfWarrior0505により編集済み: 8/10/2019 7:35:17 PM
    [quote]Was it a "ban" or a "restriction"? People keep confusing the 2 different terms, but they mean completely different things. You mentioned the article, so you should know the difference and use the correct terms. Bans are permanent and won't be removed. Restrictions are temporary and will not be removed before the scheduled expiration date, again, all in the article you linked.[/quote] My apologies for misinterpretation of the terms. I corrected the errors within the post. Didn't mean to mix the two, as it's clear. Therefore once again my apologies. [quote]Ok, put yourself in Bungie's position. On their end, they see an account glitching and negatively affecting other players. How is Bungie to know the player had their connection rendered unstable due to an unlawful neighbor? Just because your friend said so? Bungie has said in articles several times, a players connection and account is their responsibility. It is unfortunate your friend's neighbor did that, but it is not Bungie's fault and Bungie has an obligation to the rest of the players. The only response you "might" get is from a BNGSecurity person once they know your friend's gamer tag and I am pretty sure they will say "reviewed and upheld".[/quote] Granted they won't, in which is a fair point. I also wasn't "pointing a finger" of the blame game. That wasn't the intention nor meant to come across that way. The means was "After" the first restriction that they did take responsibility to own up by means of better provider despite the unfortunate outcome in the end. I've also learned from another source that most gaming companies have a policy that regardless of the situation once banned after warnings/restrictions it's final. As you've pointed out. My aim "Was" to see of if it could be lifted due to the situation. As I admit I did browse till I came across the article in the forms. But if one was looked into such as this then every "case" would have to be looked into which in the end won't. So despite the outcome I did try, and I do appreciate the input. At least you were kind enough to respond in a friendly manner as I know the gaming community can switch on the fly in an instant of either being helpful or those that chose to be a "douche".

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  • Decca0805により編集済み: 8/11/2019 8:16:37 AM
    If I may add, based on what this neighbour did and what it resulted in, your friend is capable of and may want to press criminal charges.

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  • You are very welcome. I didn’t take it as you pointing any fingers. I just didn’t want anyone to get their hopes up about it. It is unfortunate for your friend if what happened is true.

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