Time to go to get some new specs if you can't see the blue glowing hunter running towards you.

You’re gonna like hunters with Khepri’s Sting next season.

Nobody tell him about rat king... And invis’s effects for what it takes to get it don’t pay off in PvP. A dodge is the most efficient way for invis, but since it no longer breaks AA (I understand why btw) the best thing about it is that you get the crouching stance on peoples radar when moving full speed (that means you are pinged on the radar rather than a permanent red mark) If a hunter is willing to spec themselves to be a ping on your radar every few seconds than it’s just a good utilization of their ability. It’s something that not all hunters think is even worth it, and those that do have to build around it (graviton forfeit, paragon mods, etc.) to make it so.

the only time invis was “OP” was when nightstalker invis broke aim assist off of them and you could rush with last hope.

Invis is literally not op. And I play as a Titan. I compete just as well as a hunter. I don’t think Hunters are op in crucible by any means.

Playing field is already even if invis bothers you that much which it really shouldn’t use rat king and shoulder charge my guy. Other than that fix your brightness, get some glass, and open your eyes cause they aren’t hard to see

Yes, i know, i have almost all of my time on a hunter, and its my best character currently. I'll tell you know, i main a warlock. So i have little bias to share with you. Here is how you beat them as warlock when they're invis: Use empowering rift if at long distance so when the firefight starts, you have so much more dps. You can use arc souls to see them. You can use Divine Protection to get more upper hand. You can use a subclass of which super activation damages below you to yeet them. As a titan, you can: Barricade so they have to go behind to hit you. You can prep a shoulder charge to meet them. You can even shotgun them out because you have more resilience. As either, you can use attacks that burn your enemies such as grenades, Thorn Mark of the Devourer, Polaris Lance Perfect Fifth, to add to their already glamourous sparkly visibility. List continues. Congrats, and i play characters other than hunter. I am not salty, but im tryna help you buddy. Maybe turn your resolution up? Because it can be potent if you dont just look for sparkles

you have summoned me!

But invisible players are so [b]easy[/b] to see, and many of them don’t realize you see them until it’s too late. Outside of Hunters mid-super, I reckon I kill more invisible Hunters trying to run up on me than kill me. Because invis outside of supers doesn’t last particularly long most people are going to use it to either try to escape death or to stealthily close the distance for a shotgun attack. Truth be told, a lot of Hunters who use (non super) invis offensively are kinda sloppy at it. They activate stealth mode and then run out into the open making a bee line straight for you, hoping you don’t see them. Because [i]they[/i] have to refrain from firing to keep invis up, [i]you[/i] get to initiate the fire fight which gives you a better chance of winning said fire fight. The scenarios when I tend to get killed by invis Hunters more often than not are: • Hunters using invis while their super is active. Sure, I see them just as easily as any other time, but they can close the distance quite easily and have super armor, so I’m often not in a good position to kill them. • An invis Hunter packing a shotgun who steps out from around a corner right in front of me (generally in this scenario it’s not so much the invis but the fact that they’re not showing up on radar that is truly deadly here). • A Hunter who runs invis and also happens to be much better than me at pvp (you don’t [b]need[/b] invis to kill me, just be better than me, which isn’t that high a hurdle). So no, invisibility does not need to be nerfed. cut out the middle man. just nerf people who are better than me at pvp. / (΄◉◞౪◟◉｀)

Get rid of guns and give them to other shooters.

Well you see on one hand C a p e On the other hand Painful agonizing failure

An invisible titan... no just... no. Hunters have invisibility Warlocks have blink and huge amount of ability regen Titans have shoulder charge Each class has their own features that make them special. Imo we need more things that are exclusive to each class.

In terms of abilities I dont think so but when it comes to core play I think the hunter outshines the rest. Their play style encourages agressive, solo play and their jump will always get you if they jump fron above, not to mention they can easily squeeze out of a tight situation.

Dude, just git gud (and before you come to say something because i'm a hunter main i dont play pvp that much and when i play it i use a titan the vast majority of the time)

I don’t play PVP because I’m an intellectual lol.

I dunno, as a warlock main I've never really had an issue with noticing an invisible hunter. Even with spectral blades, you can hear it coming. And I stink at pvp.