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4/7/2019 10:05:45 AM
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Do you think that Destiny 1 is better than Destiny 2?
I recently replayed Destiny 1 for quite some time and was shocked by how much better it STILL is.
The Strikes with far more creative Boss-mechanics and loot drops, the in-depth gameplay in the crucible, the overall atmosphere and even the design of the armor seems beyond what we got in D2.
Check it out! It's flabergasting how a sequel can be in this state.
What do you think?
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Comparing overall life cycles? D1 seems to be a lot better. But in stages it’s a little different Launch: both were rocky but D1 wins because bungie didn’t seem to evolve and learn from the past DLC 1: these were both equally bad from a technical standpoint. But TDB was better from a gameplay standpoint DLC 2: I’m a little biased here because HOW was probably my favourite time in this game. But I think we can agree warmind pales in comparison Big DLC 1: TTK Introduced 1 subclass element with vast customization. Forsaken introduced 3 new subclasses, but no customization. They both did wonders for lore and were both fun to play. TTK only takes this because of how good King’s Fall was. TTK April Update vs Black Armory and Joker’s Wild: The April Update increased max light, and gave us some new story missions and a new strike. Black Armory gave us negligible world mini bosses and a horde mode for the people chasing a perfectly rolled gun. And Season Of The Drifter is only worth talking about if you like Gambit Prime. It’s hard comparing this time period because it’s 2 updates against 1, but D2 takes it nonetheless. Moving forward: Bungie is gonna has to do a lot to top ROI. I don’t know if they can please people no matter what they do considering the current state of the community. But best of luck to them
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2 通の返信The only people who don't like d1 crucible better than d2 crucible are people who only do good during this no skill shitshow of what they call PvP.
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Give me less content that is beautifully crafted and a joy to play (D1) over more content that is poorly crafted and weak to play (D2). Also poll currently D1 - 879 ie 76.84% of votes cast D2 - 265 ie 23.16% of votes cast
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3 通の返信Lol. From reading all the replies, it’s obvious many of you are blinded by nostalgia.
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6 通の返信TheArtistにより編集済み: 4/10/2019 12:11:09 PMDepends. Depends on what stage of D1s life we're talking about...and what part of D2 we're comparing it too. If we're talking Vanilla D1 and comparing it to D2? Both games were equally bad as RPGs....but D2 is actually better as a shooter game, and has more thngs to do. If we're talking about Year 3 of D1....and comparing it to D2? Destiny 1 was the better RPG and loot game in a RUNAWAY. As an RPG, Destiny 2 is a broken.....badly broken....game. But D2 gets the nod, once again, in terms of content . You don't want Destiny 1 back. What you want is Destiny 1s RPG elemernts and loot, combined with Destiny 2s content. storytelling, and world design. THAT would be a bad-ass game....and is the game Bungie should have given us at Destiny 2 launch.
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9 通の返信Literally the only 2 things that D2 improved on were instaspawn sparrows and cliff climb. That.. is....it.
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19 通の返信Long reply. Tl;Dr : D2 > D1 in my opinion. Certain aspects of D1 were nice. Crucible maps being designed for 6v6, some strikes are nice (overall I like D2 strikes better though), and some explore zones. Dreadnaught I always found myself returning too frequently and I have never had another zone where I do that at all. But honestly I think D2 is better. People for some reason think D1 was the perfect heaven. It wasn't. Crucible was awful. If you werent running stickies with ice breaker you were throwing. High Rof Hand Cannons killed in 3 shots. So HC were EXTREMELY strong. Shotguns i dont think were as strong in Y3 iirc as they are currently in D2. D2 has WAY more stuff to do. People complain about "having to do old stuff to go up in light". Why do you still play strikes or crucible? That is old content. Nightfalls? Old Content. They cannot literally remake the game with each expansion. They made some new ways to go up in power with JW anyways. But also, I actually prefer the weapons in D2 more. Some I miss still like First Curse, but I am happy to no longer see "Gjallarhorn required" posts because that was LITERALLY the only acceptable raid weapon except for maybe Spindle on Warpriest (to keep flinching him) and Dark Drinker at Aksis. Other than that, it was always Gjallarhorn. D2, I feel like there is much more option. DARCI, Whisper, Acrius, and I am pretty sure a good amount more is very useful for a fair amount of raid bosses. I think people just want to hate on D2 so they try to paint D1 as this perfect game. It was far from perfect. They keep comparing Y3 to now. It should be currently Y2 D1 to Y2 D2. In D1, there was nothing to do right now (i dont remember when april update dropped, but that didnt add much to do tbh). People are claiming they would rather have no Annual Pass. Are they stupid? There would be a MASSIVE content drop if not for the annual pass. People claim no story: They should be more clear. no Campaign. There is a LOT of story in JW, just in the form of lore rather than presentable campaign. IN GAME lore at that. But yeah. My opinion; D2 > D1.
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I think destiny 2 has brought a lot of new and helpful things some even engaging simple things as to being able to launch straight into a activity instead of going orbit first to pinnical weapons(except Lunas and nf) even like some of there pve activities are hella good except raids they're to complicated for your average player. But when it comes to pvp destiny 2 has just yeeted its was way behind d1 pvp. I really all I care about is pvp so in my opinion d1 is way better
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7 通の返信D1 had better everything. D2 should not have been a reboot of the franchise, but an expansion to the original. The D2 Crucible is trash, Trials of Osiris failed, Faction Rallies failed, the raids are almost unplayable as compared to the ones in D1. Specifically D2 raids are overloaded by complicated communication mechanics which force you to use full fireteams. The worlds (i.e. area maps) were larger in D1. We had SRL in D1. Iron Banner just worked in D1 - they are still playing catch-up in D2. We had more, better Crucible maps in D1. We had large Crucible maps with vehicles in D1. I could keep going, but you get my drift. D2 thew out the book and re-wrote it as a cheap throw-away paperback. I understand that with parallel development of D2 while D1 was a live game meant that development was not in sync, but I sincerely hope that with D3, they start with a copy of D1 and work forward rather than taking anything from D2.
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3 通の返信People keep complaining during D1. When D3 will be released, they will say D2 was better. People are never happy. D2 is almost better in every aspect.
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10 通の返信JazzyPaladin477により編集済み: 4/8/2019 10:13:48 AMOutlaw, explosive round, firefly scout rifles. Enough said. When my 5 year old son saw d2 the first time he said "why did they turn destiny into a cartoon dad?" Credit where credit is due: ledge grab. That is all.
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1 返信I've been playing d1 a lot more recently, gotta say it's still a blast. Havnt touched d2 since November, even uninstalled it. I loved the d1 raids, I'd even do them just to help people, d2 raids are not that good bar last wish (havnt done scourge) Levi isnt a raid, its takeshi's castle, EoW is like crota but not as fun (swordbearing anyone?) Spire of stars has too much ball throwing. Strikes imo are much better in d1, brogoth, omnigul, shield brothers, alan hul (yes, alan) spekis, archorn, frank the shank, Kell with no house etc...all better than d2 strikes. (Plus those strike introductions although annoying towards the end, add depth to why were doing them) And cruciballs? Even though we went through many (frustrating) metas; vex, suros, tlw/thorn, doctrine, clever Dragon, side arms (I'm sure I missed some) still felt better than d2. From movement to weapons in general to the maps. Shotguns, snipers, side arms, even a few fusions were all good. Before people say there's more variety in weapons in d2 cruciballs, when I was playing, no they wasn't. All the same weapons being used. D2 story is better, the ledge grab was nice touch, more supers is always a good thing however I'm gutted they destroyed the bubble (I know people will say bubbles made raids and stuff easier but the bubble was awesome) Other than that what did they actually add? Or did better? I'm struggling to think...vendors are useless...well not Tess. How many times have vendors been updated? How many times has Tess been updated? Forsaken imo isn't as good a taken king. The story behind it was a bit meh imo, i know it was setting up something bigger but meh...taken king was just better. Overall imo d1 was far superior to d2.
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2 通の返信In D1 I was the main character and I interacted with other characters in the story. In D2 I'm third guy from the left and run around doing what Zavala, Spider, and the other scum demand. I am nobody. Now I have to go get stolen stuff for Spider or I won't be able to buy any cores. I just thought that at you, since I'm not allowed to speak.
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1 返信A large number of people that would have said yes to Destiny 1 have left the game and forums.
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3 通の返信Ok. Im tired of it seeing that stupid argument. Its not [i]nostalgia[/i], D1 wasnt 15 years ago. Its better. Thats just how it is. And 76% of people that voted agree. Those are really good gambling odds.
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1 返信I would take D1 any day over D2.... and twice on Sundays. I actually enjoy playing D1. It doesn't feel like a job unlike D2.
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On the whole, if you look at D1 including all it's expansions, it is better than D2. The raids were more fun, the guns we're more fun, the tone was super dark and mysterious. For the most part the tone and lore of the game has gone in the right direction for my taste, although it's still a travesty the lore has to be read vis datamined released to a website rather than oh I don't know, the actual game. But I digress. On the whole, D1 was much better. At least I know I had way more fun with it. One thing I really miss is gear from raids that had unique perks that would help you to do the harder version of the raid or out in the other activities. The drought of strikes, emphasis on endless grind, and raids that remind me of WoW in terms of time investment needed just don't jive with what I enjoy or want out of the game any more.
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Well, the difference is, Destiny 1 while lacking severely at its launch, had potential. It had heart. Vault of Glass was the proof of that. There was something special about Iron Banner in D1, and there just seemed like a lot that could be explored. I felt a drive to play through the raids, and collect the exotics. So despite the poor decisions, and the clustered poorly organized state it was in, it had care put into it. Destiny 2 seemed like the work of focus groups, and corporate shills, who were trying to attract "the larger audience" while simultaneously shoving any item that looks half decent behind a cash store. Every item that is available from playing the game, looks like it was collected from the trash bin next to the accepted Destiny 1 designs. There isn't a great degree of care.
