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3/4/2019 1:47:42 PM
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Its not that destiny 2 is BAD , but destiny 1 was so much better that you can't help but hate d2 because it kinda killed the superior game . This makes the game like 10 times worst , because the predecessor was better.
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It’s the same thing that happened to cod ghosts: it came out right after bo2? Arguably one of the best in that series, and it just didn’t have the chance to prove itself in that shadow; improvements( however small ) were drowned out by the relative shortcomings compared to bo2. Imagine if a full counter strike game was built off of ghosts engine but still maintained the CSGO core feel but had the smoothness and aesthetics of ghosts? I think it would be good, and people would like it. But ultimately, the boots were too big for ghosts to fill. Destiny 2 gave up some serious customization options in my book, but each time I played d1, I kept saying “man I want this one d2 movement mechanic back.” It’s a lose-lose for everyone in some way...
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Salamanderにより編集済み: 3/5/2019 5:02:52 PMSo much better? Destiny 2 is suffering from the nearly the same problems in the almost same order! Both lack content, constant nerfing and balancing, having to wait for DLCs which we have to pay for just for the game to "get better later", constantly making gear irrelevant to recycle it later, PvP has always been a mess, incoherent story (which at least D2 finally got right in it's base game and Forsaken and D1 finally started to get right with The Taken King), lack of appropriate matchmaking for certain activities, unused social spaces in D2, and lack of actual exploration in Patrols which is basically lack of content. Those things are serious problems and have persisted since D1. D1 only started to finally get things right with The Taken King. It shouldn't have to take that many DLCs to get things right, especially when you considered we already paid for the game, then you have to pay more just for the game to be fixed. And then they scrapped most of what made D1 good when D2 came out. Unacceptable! Sorry, but this "the game will get better later" thing needs to stop.
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But destiny 1 was still better than d2 at launch . The pvp ia soooooo much better in d1 , like ALOT more . D2's main problem is that it COULD make itslef better with forsaken , but bungie burried themselves into a tomb and planted dynamites and traps around the entrance so they couldn't escape , with the weapon slot changes that took them a whole year to change and the subclass attunement system replacing the og , much better tree system . Unpopular opinion but the pve in d2 is fine imo , the pvp tho , oooof. Once something class related is nerfed there's a high likelihood the entire class becomes usless , like warlocks rn
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To be honest, I actually enjoy PvP, so I'm not a PvP hater or anything. But D2 PvP still feels way different than D1. And I can't say D1 was better at launch when we had "I don't have time to explain why I don't have time to explain". That was just pathetic. The only thing D1 had going for it was PvP and Vault of Glass. So I suppose maybe it was just a tad better, but that's not enough for me to go on about how good D1 was.
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D1 became like 20 times better with taken king. D2 became like 3 times better in forsaken . Thats the thing , from taken king onwards destiny 1 became some of best experiences most of us had but then d2 launched and even after all these dlcs after 1 and a half year it stil hasn't caught up with the year 3 of d1 , which it should have surpassed at launch
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Still shouldn't have to pay more for a game to get better. The reason why developers keep pumping out half finished games is because people are complacent with the "it will get better later" mentality. This stuff needs to stop. It's why D1 suffered and it's why D2 still suffers.
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There was no reason to play the game. Crucible was side arms only, the loot dropped like candy and max light happened in a few days. D1 yr3 was the least my entire clan played D1, it's probably why we weren't surprised by D2 launch. Casual loot/shooters do not work for me. I'm already waiting for what's next in Anthem, it's been out a 10 days on PS4.
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BootKnacksにより編集済み: 3/4/2019 6:01:11 PM[quote]There was no reason to play the game[/quote] How about to enjoy yourself? that was something you could actually do in D1 if you didn't feel like grinding it out. Everything in d2 feels like a long, never ending boring grind. Supers and grenades don't replenish as fast, every weapon feels like a peashooter. In d1, if i wanted to grind, i could. If i didn't, i could still enjoy myself because even the worst weapons were fun to use. Go mess around in the crucible with some absurd loadout. Hell, i just played a few matches in d1 the other day using a felwinters lie and outbreak prime for nostalgia sake, and did awful! but it was enjoyable still because the crucible wasn't a cesspool of underwhelming guns and overly sweaty people. The thing that was nice about d1 is you had choices. If you wanted a grind, you could have it. If you didn't want casual play, you didn't have to play casually. If you wanted to play casually, you could. There is no reason why destiny 2 couldn't have followed that same formula to allow both casual play and hardcore play, and there is no reason you shouldn't want that. Catering to everybody instead of the few would have helped this game more than you may think.
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D1 was was MILES better at the end than D2 was at launch, and its still better. Went back and played a few matches in d1 crucible the other day and actually enjoyed myself. D2 is simply a tedious chore that isn't enjoyable. Everything in this game feels like its more work than its worth. D1 was also a chore, but it was actually an enjoyable chore, one that while you were grinding something, you didn't really feel like you were grinding (most of the time).
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BootKnacksにより編集済み: 3/4/2019 5:54:01 PMliterally any of them. For the most part, any exotic quest was actually worth it because exotics were actually good. Outbreak Prime? long ass grind to get. Most of the quest was grindy, but it found a way to make it fun to do. And, the weapon is actually good. Any of the three exotic swords? Chore to complete. However, interesting along the way, and all three swords were absolutely worth it, especially dark drinker. Thorn, Y1? extremely unenjoyable quest for a lot of people, however, the weapon was the meta for a very, very long time, making it worth the grind. Vex Mythoclast, vanilla? grinding the raid out multiple times just for a chance at one. However, the raid was actually fun, and the weapon was amazing until it got nerfed three times. The list goes on. I can't think of one quest, one bounty, one anything in D2 that i have completed and said, man, i am really happy i did that, this weapon is fun to use! Or, man that quest was a lot of fun to complete. In fact, weapons are so bland in this game that i couldn't even tell you what legendary weapons i am using right now. Lets not forget either that we could get our supers and grenades back faster in d1 as well, making any chore of a quest at least a bit more fun, as opposed to using pea shooters to spend 10 minutes taking down a simple yellow bar enemy.
