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2/6/2019 3:36:25 PM
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Culture post mini bite: Midnight Coup

So to anyone who remembers this series; part of the Roman post was to highlight a lot of similarities between the Midnight Coup; and two events in Roman history. One (The assassination of Galba by Otho) I believe to be the weaker one but the second (the assassination of Julius Caesar) I believe to be stronger. So most of the summaries below aren’t actually fully detailed but do contain many major points of interest in the events; with the actual comparison to the lore event. Enjoy. [quote][b]The midnight coup:[/b] I now want to talk about an event from the lore of destiny. Specifically the Midnight Coup, and what could have possibly served as inspiration for the event down to specific actions. For those who don’t know, can’t remember or haven’t taken a trip over to YouTube for a dose of lore, here’s the story: - Calus overthrows the previous rulers, the praetoriats. - Calus castrates the consul, making him flee into the wastelands. - Calus meets Ghaul, a gladiator and appoints him red legion primus. - soon 8 conspirators ploy to overthrow Calus. - they were: Ghaul, the Consul, Caiatl (the princess imperial), Freeborn Otzot (the psion savant), Liktour Shayotet (the emperors protection), Adeel Emoli’moli (the ever joy), Evocate General Umun’arath (the primus of all legions) and Iska’al of Phantor (the trader and confident). - Ghaul, Liktour and red legion soldiers stormed the palace, slaughtering those who opposed them. - Calus fled to his throne room, only to find his daughter there holding Calus’ bones of power, breaking them before him. - the conspirators exile the emperor on the leviathan. - the population goes into slight disarray, before being calmed by Adeel and his celebrations. - Ghaul removes all idea of an emperor and declares himself dominus. There are two possible stories that serve as inspiration to the midnight coup: The first one is the [b]overthrowing of emperor Galba by Otho[/b] (this holds less imagery than the second one): The events go as follows: - Galba saw revolt and unpopular opinions from two legions in Germania Superior after they refused to swear loyalty to him. - as a result, he adopted as his successor L.Calpurnias Piso. - the populace saw this as a sign of fear. - furthermore M.Salvius Otho, who was expecting to be adopted was alienated by the choice of Piso. - Otho secretly entered talks with discontented Praetorian and plotted to kill Galba. - Galba tried to flee but was met by a troop of Otho’s cavalry and was killed. - Piso was killed afterwards. - the people then went on to celebrate Galba’s death. - Otho took the rule as emperor. Now the comparisons between the midnight coup and Otho’s coup are as follows: - Galba is referenced through Calus (both were seen as greedy and both held the title of emperor) - Otho is referenced through the consul (both orchestrated the events, but neither directly participated, and both held a personal vengeance) - the discontented praetorians are referenced through the red legion troops. - when Galba is confronted by the troops, it could be referenced through the throne room confrontation. - Both Emperors are inevitably stripped of their power with a member of the coup taking command of the empires. - Both populations have celebrations after the respective coups (obviously for different reasons. The second one being the [b]assassination of Julius Caesar[/b](this is a lot more reflective, pre and post coup): The event goes as follows: - Caesar, a Roman General is made leader of the Empire and possible to become dictator. - Caesar was beloved by members of the senate and the populace. - however some members of the senate disagreed with the idea of a dictatorship and wished for a republic. - Some of Caesar’s close allies formed a group planning to assassinate Caesar. - the group was led by Gaius Cassius Longinus (the “moving spirit”), Decimus Junius Brutus Albinus (a general in Caesar’s army), and Marcuse Junius Brutus (referred to a Brutus) was seen as the illegitimate son of Caesar and the leader of the coup. - the leaders, among 30 other senators cornered Caesar and killed him. Caesar resisted until seeing Brutus, breaking Caesar emotionally. - the death of Caesar led to mass rebellion against the conspirators and the senate by the people. - the conspirators were being hunted down and killed by those who remained allied with Caesar. There are differences with this example but it has a lot more similarities to he midnight coup: - Calus reflects Caesar (both are powerful, beloved and influential as seen by the populace’s respective uprisings). - Ghaul reflects Brutus (both seen as son like figures by their leaders). - Consul represents Cassius (the moving forces). - Decimus is reflected through Liktour Shayotet (as both were high ranking officials and were both present for their respective coups). - the mob of conspirators is reflected through the red legion group that stormed the Palace. - Caesar’s emotional breaking could be reflected through either: 1) Calus finding out his daughter has betrayed him, or 2) Caiatl literally breaking Calus’s bones of power. - both Caesar and Calus were removed from their powerful positions (obviously in different ways). - both populations are not to happy with the respective coups. - post coup events show conspirators being killed by those loyal to the emperors. [/quote] [spoiler]link to master post https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/247827988/0/0[/spoiler]

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  • I have a problem with the ending conclusion you have where you state that there is a similar ending for both sides (Roman & Cabal), yet clearly, there isn't. In your history you have both sets of conspirators killing/betraying their repective ruler, the populace rising up against them and killing them. Yet you said with the Cabal the populace were agitated, Ghaul calmed them and rid the idea of an Emperor for Dominus. That isn't even close, unless we are to just assume all the conspirators died because 'reasons'.

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