The only nerf I’ll accept is the reduction of sleeper ammo pick up in gambit and thats it. Honestly no nerf is needed at all, in fact there are few things that actually requires buffs more than anything.

damn nerfs make some valid points and i agree that eververse must be removed from this game.

Normally i'd agree about nerfs but anyone who uses the phrase git gud automatically reveals themselves to be a virgin living in their mothers basement and thus I must support the opposite. Nerf away bungie!

STOP YELLING ABOUT PEOPLE YELLING!!! Nerfs are needed for balance

People can talk about whatever they like and this is the exact place to have discussions about the game. Anyone who doesn't like those types of discussions is free to click or tap on to another discussion. Nor does it make anyone stronger or tougher than anyone else to refrain from such discussions or opinions and vice versa. Bungie has stated themselves something to the effect that they like to influence the meta and intentionally do so. The adjustments keep the game feeling alive, like it's being updated, especially in down times in between major content releases. IMO even the most extreme nerfs and buffs have always been very minor tweaks and adjustments that have never really affected the core gameplay all that much. Much ado about nothing if you ask me. Like there was a thread recently about some scout buff and it basically amounted to it was now going to take something like 5 shots to kill a phalanx instead of 6. And people were in typical wild hyperbole mode tossing around personal insults calling Bungie the worst developer ever etc when in reality the change was a very minor tweak and pretty insignificant. Most all the buffs and nerfs have been similarly insignicant. The only nerf I can remember having any major effect on gameplay was a D1 hand cannon nerf, but in the end everyone was running Eyaslunas and that orange and blue crucible handcannon anyway. No nerf or buff has ever made anything unusable in PVE either. I mean if you are really affected by that 3 percent damage nerf to assault rifles or whatever and feel that really affects your ability to kill thrall in the strike playlist well I guess, but its something thats never really affected me. Then you have this idea that the whims of the playerbase have a massive effect on nerfs and buffs. I personally think that idea is a bit nearsighted and self important tbh. I mean the playerbase plays a part to be sure, but Bungie really doesn't even need to listen to players, they have all the data to look at to see what's going on and to decide what they might or might not like to tweak. There have been many many examples of adjustments over the years that were never once asked for by the players. Heck in D1 the whole "nerf fusion" meme was a result of that. Fusions were always getting adjusted even though hardly anyone ran fusions let alone expressed any desire for fusion rifle adjustments. Now I 've never asked for any nerfs or buffs myself but I don't really see why some people have such a problem with those who do. If you feel it makes you tougher never to have an opinion on anything and just "deal with things" well I guess..but then maybe places meant for the sharing of opinions arent the best place for tough guys then...:)...

Shotgun range needs to go.

Outside of power engram, I never play crucible or gambit. The matchmaking is atrocious & the lag makes it almost pointless some games. Add to that, ppl leaving/disconnecting cos they see a stacked clan with Redrix n Sleepers with catalyst.. I was explaining to my bro, who has played up to Warmind but hadn't got Forsaken yet, about Gambit & his reaction was something like 'blam that for a game mode.. nope'

I stopped playing gambit because of the the sleeper and won’t play because of the sleeper. Not because it ones shots but because I got tired of seeing the laser curve and hit me. Or go through the wall and hit me or just flat out miss and hit me. The aim assist is just ridiculous.

You are the true hero on these forums. Well said. Well f*cking said.

Is this post sarcastic, ironic, or serious? It's hard to know how to respond, because it ranges from... slow clap, to are you really not aware of what you're writing?

Sometimes things need to be fixed. Like when sleeper is massively overused and makes Gambit tedious and unpleasant to play.

Well said

Just go play some Blackout. Beats the hell out of Bungies pre programmed pvp ... that makes sure everyone no matter how bad they are will complete thier pvp bounties. Destiny 2 PVP is an experience not a Game.

Agreed, nerfs are not needed. Counters and other strong options makes for a varied game. Make other options viable and fun to use. On your point of adapting, i saw a vid of the new blade subclass repel a sleeper shot back at the opponent and kill him. It was brilliant and there needs to be more fun options to counter strong weapons

Nerf the Sleeper, and nerf the “catchup” system for Gambit. If one team is dominating, you’re just drawing out the inevitable by helping the clearly losing team for the second round.

I never “got gud”, but I’ll never call for nerfs. I refuse to destroy someone else’s experience to save my own. Besides, I don’t want nerfs affecting my PvE experience.

Okay nerf shotguns. got it.

So what I really hear you saying is up the Edge Transit drop rate. Huge upvote to that.

Bump No nerfs ever it was made that way why change it

I agree with everything you said. Bungie should for sure nerf fusion rifles !!