If PvP was anything like it was in D1 then I think this is a grind, but most would eventually get there. But PvP in D2 is [i]so[/i] rank that there's seems little to no point including this gun in the game cos less people will be willing to do [i]this[/i] than they were to get the claymore. Wise up Bungie, you can't be this stupid surely?