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8/20/2018 3:04:25 AM
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I'm a player who has the redrix as well as wishbringer shotgun (which is ok but still fun) and I have stopped grinding as the final tier no longer appleade to me (for reason I'll explain later).
On one hand I can see the positive of no one being excluded from a perk combo that is powerful, but it requires a person to be landing constant precision kills. In addition to this collectors no longer feel left out when it comes to having such a weapon. Finally it prevents people from complaining about being locked out of content due to a skill gap.
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HOWEVER!
In my opinion this quest is way to easy with the only difficult step being one that you do passively anyway (valor resets). On top of this the gun was design to be obtained by the hardcore player who needed to be focused each and every game in order to obtain it (as heard in one of bungies warmind streams). It is also unfair for those that put in the effort to grind for such as weapon as of the power meta that they had to push through, stacked teams, and in my case (from my solo queuing) bad team afk or missing teammates making the grind painful. This weapon is powerful but only when uninterrupted, which includes factors such as getting the first shot before an enemy, controlling the perk (as the spray can sometimes be overwhelming) and getting precision kills without your teammates stealing the kill.
Super side notes:
1- To [u]o0DELTA FORCE0o[/u], i had exams to study for and managed to get redrix and wishbringer in a short time frame.
2- I would appreciate it if redrix owner got more than an emblem (a sparrow, ship, or exclusive armor ornaments like 'Redrix's pride' )
3- I ain't mad at bungie but I'm disappointed with members of the community laughing at the misery of those who put the time into grinding for such a titled weapon
4- If u (those who are laughing at the misery of others) don't have the weapon, then it prove that u have a lack of skill to obtain such a weapon as well as proving to me that u couldn't improve urself in pvp and thus need bungie to hold your hand, which is waaaaaaaaaayyyy more humiliating and hilarious
5- I like chicken?
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Pugz
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No offence but I bet, if I made a fresh account to obtain boardsword, my time in the crucible would be around 30 to 40 in game hours AT WORST. the steps aren't all separate as (if u read my post) the 5 resets relatively easy and isn't that time consuming. Also pulse rifle kill's are easy, double plays are pretty much double assists, 20 bounties is just picking them up from shaxx (5 to 6 per character- 2 daily resets that can be done in 4 games minimum and u DON'T NEED TO WIN THE COMPLETED MATCHES FOR STEP 6 (and the comp games u can just jump off the map the make them faster). This isn't time investment, this is a joke for a quest line that should be way more draining (say add in a step such as 3 kinetic and 3 energy pulse rifle kills in a match 3 times) so those who don't have the weapon can get a more realistic feeling of those who grinded for this weapon. -
TattooedOniにより編集済み: 8/20/2018 4:18:38 AMI think the number of players willing to pass on all other content in the game to grind crucible for this gun is going to be microscopic, and it will still take them weeks unless they can play 10+ hours each day for days in a row. Most players won’t complete it, some will before season 5 but not much before, and a tiny tiny % will complete it the first month. Yes it is time investment not difficulty but it takes a long time to complete 60 games. There isn’t a step that is going to go ultra fast except the 20 kills with each weapon burn type. Just think about it. If youre good you average 30 kills a game but those aren’t all with your pulse. They are super kills, melee kills, grenade kills, heavy weapon kills all together. Even just the first step will take a minimum of 10-30 games if you’re good.
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Pugz
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let me do u some really simple maths: in total u need a minimum of 650 kills with 75 of being assist related (75 double plays) for the early stages. say u get 5 kill per game and u get 6 games per hour (as matches don't last longer than 10 minutes), that's 30 kills every hour (for a below average player) 650/30= 21.666666667 hours total to do the early stages. with bounties later down the line, as well as 4 valor resets (assuming the resets only working on the final step and the player hasn't reset their legend rank prior to the step), that would add another 8 to 12 hours AT WORST. this gives u AT WORST 34 hours for the BELOW AVERAGE PLAYER -
Your maths are bad., but I’m willing to work with you. Let’s assume 5 kills per game 6 games per hour as you suggested: Step 1 is 7 hours. Step 2 you get help from step 1 but there is no way to know how many wins you’re getting in that 7 hours. Let’s just say for argument it takes 3 more hours for the average person we are at 10 hours. Step 3 2.5 hours, 12.5 total. Step 4 now these shouldn’t happen in 5 per hour since it requires headshot kill but even if they were 5 more hours, 17.5 total Step 5 5 again 22.5 total Step 6 12.5 so 34.5 total. That’s before step 7. It took me 2 games average to do 5 bounties on each character today. Let’s say that’s 1.5 35.5 Let’s say you got 2 valor resets during the quest and it takes 12 hours played per valor reset. That means 36 more hours until you’re done. Let’s make it 72 hours total so it looks nicer than 71.5 For an average player they might play 10 hours of crucible a week (this is really generous). For 7 weeks plus change total. Almost 2 months of a 3 months season for someone really trying as an average player? Seems like enough grind to me.
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You should probably read harder. They set the premise 5 kills with a pulse per game, not me. Even if you get 30 kills a game when you remove the super kills, grenade kills, power kills, and non-pulse kills then you will have less than 30. Since we are talking about lower skill players and when they will get the broadsword we are assuming 5 kills per game.
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Pugzにより編集済み: 8/20/2018 11:17:23 AM
Pugz
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[quote]Do you even play this game?[/quote] Clearly not -_- Did you even read my original post? the maths i am using takes into account the fact of every single kill, MEANING a person can load into a match get a kill (precision or not, depending on the step) and then leave the game. Also it doesn't take 12 hours to reset your valor, and it also will be easier with 2x valor events On top of that step 5 will be way too easy with modes such as mayhem as u have constant super Furthermore, if u read my post i clearly stat that players can launch into a comp match 25 times and finish each match under 5 minutes by just simply jumping off the map. My maths is not bad as it takes to account the TOTAL KILLS for the number I have presented as well as the MINIMUM KILLS/ASSISTS for the quest, disregarding bounties to some extent as they can be saved up during step 5 or 6 (15 bounties at max ready for step 7 and only requiring a daily reset and 5 more bounties to hand in). -
I guess we will just have to wait and see, but I do know I play the game a lot and I’m about halfway through my 5th reset today. I only grinned valor for my first 2 resets and had 3 way before there was ever a double or triple valor weekend. There is a whole other game to play besides PvP and with the light grind, campaign, new end game, and gambit coming I don’t see anyway that the majority of players have this quest done in the first couple months.
