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Chef Senpaiにより編集済み:
4/17/2018 11:27:21 PM
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A legitimate gun question for Americans
Look, I'm not doing this to start a controversy, I just want some opinions. Why as Americans do you have a culture obsessed with guns, it makes no sense to me. You have a mass shooting almost daily, school shootings weekly, and no action ever gets done. It seems completely pointless,so please try to explain explain it, and I will try to understand
Edit 1: yes I have shot a gun, I know how they can be used for protection or hunting, I'm talking about when the one guy owns 20 different guns, and just owns them
After being told to check I looked it up, I was wrong about the amount of mass shootings, only around 1 mass shooting every 2 months. I apologize, won't be changing what I posted up top, but I will recognize the fact right here
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11 通の返信It's each man's God-given right to own one if he so chooses. The govornment can't bestow that right and control it as they see fit, so when they try to, it becomes an infringement on personal freedom, something most people don't take lightly.
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3 通の返信[quote] Why as Americans do you have a culture obsessed with guns[/quote] We’re really not obsessed with guns [quote]You have a mass shooting almost daily, school shootings weekly[/quote] That’s so far from the truth it hurts, mass shootings and school shootings aren’t common at all, you’re three times more likely to die from alcohol, you’re more likely to die by cancer, you’re just as likely to get hit by a car as you are to get shot and killed (plus the majority of gun deaths are suicides in the US)
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Ricochet 049により編集済み: 4/17/2018 8:49:21 AMUltimately freedom is dangerous. But you are free to navigate that danger as you see fit. It’s like the difference between a wild animal and one locked up in the zoo. Some people prefer the zoo life, but oddly they want to bring everyone else into the cage with them, even those who the wild will never leave. Your question isn’t one so easily answered, and it is lead by a false statement. People have been acting against the violence for a very long time.
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It has a lot to do with our past, Circle. When our forefathers came here, the land was wild and the natives either liked or hated us. Then, there was the War for Independence. The Colonials had no professional army, no career soldiers to fight wars. They relied on local militias made up of whoever owned a firearm. It really was not until after WWII that the citizenry of the US began to idolize the American military. Until that time, there was a deep distrust of professional armies. Self defense was paramount to survival to early settlers, especially as Americans pushed further into the Western frontier. This past has made us reliant on firearms as generations of Americans have equated them to survival and national defense. This is a very condensed version of US history, but I would be happy to answer any questions you have on the subject, if I am able to.
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OLDSCRATCH4により編集済み: 4/20/2018 6:43:45 PMIn the most simplest terms, the culture here in the US is based on one of fierce personal independence, and firearms are a reflection of that. I've lived all over the world, on every continent except Antarctica, and there's one thing that has always stood out to me regarding firearms vs cultures, countries that generally frown on firearms tend to have a dependency culture, and vice versa, countries with an independent culture tend to have a more favorable view of firearms, this is not true 100% of the time, but it definitely reflects a large amount. As to owning many firearms, I'm one of those people who do. I won't state how many I own, but suffice it to say, more than most would believe, I would be considered a "nut". My collection though, covers everything from colonial (flintlock, matchlock) to modern sporting rifles. Its a hobby and I enjoy using many different types, and the only way to do that is to own...many different types. Edit, as to "obsessed with guns". It appears that way as firearms are under attack right now, so proponents of firearms talk about it frequently, as well as a lot of people see the possibility of more restrictions and so purchase more firearms. Think about it this way, if the 4th amendment (as a random example) were under attack, that's what you would hear people talking about.
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4 通の返信Why does the number of guns a person owns matter? If I own and maintain a single firearm, which is my constitutional right and I never use it for anything other than target practice or hunting or self-defense, would it matter if I owned three or four or five more? Does it make you uncomfortable if you find out a person owns 10 or more firearms? What is the number that makes you uncomfortable? Realistically, how would you even know who owns what and how many firearms? To your question, it seems to me that America is raised on the gun. Just look at our history. Every major war fought on American soil involved Firearms of some kind. When you look at paintings of the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, the Mexican-American War, the Civil War, at cetera what do you see? Men with guns. When you look at pictures or movies from the 1920s in the prohibition era, what do you see? Good guys and bad guys with tommy guns. When you see pictures or movies of World War 1, World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Persian Gulf War, the war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan, what do you see? Men with guns. I don't think that it is an obsession with guns so much as it is ingrained in our culture. They are just a part of who we are, subconsciously. We are told that we have inalienable rights given to us from God. And one of those rights is the right to defend ourselves from tyranny. In modern times, that defense takes the form of a gun. This is just another reason why guns are a thing in the United States. I personally believe that every American who wants to purchase a firearm should go through the same background check required to obtain a concealed carry permit. But that's just me.
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6 通の返信Do you ask the same of people who collect cars, stamps or anything else? Different strokes for different folks....
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Different people have different reasons. I personally don't even own a firearm, yet i think the right to do so is a very important one. I see it such a way as that it's the right of the populace to overthrow the government whenever they should so choose. It has less to do with whether it'd succeed or not, but just the right itself. Many people would also say that'll never be necessary, except they also probably would have also said Donald Trump would never be president of the United States, or that brexit would never have passed. Or a more dramatic example "Do you think Spain's government would ever send out riot police to attack a region expressing a will to leave Spain, and that the rest of the world be silent about this?"
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These stats were pulled right out of the Union Jack, so i instantly stopped reading and took a small nap to calm myself before continuing. Guns are not an obsession for most americans, but even if it is an obsession, there are many things that are worse for you than guns that are and addiction. Drugs and cigarettes are literally designed to be addictive, so...
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4 通の返信blade329により編集済み: 4/17/2018 3:01:59 PMThere is so much I could say to this. I'm not even going to cover your stats, because you are pulling those out of thin air. You could claim people are obsessed with lots of things. Movies, sex, cars, alcohol, drugs, hobbies, food. More people die from drugs and alcohol, yet nobody is screaming about it. Guns are a hobby for lot of people. People build their own. Some shoot for sport. I work with a guy who shoots competitively. Some like to hunt. Others want them for protection or for emergencies. Other like to collect them. There's whole market for antique and collectible firearms. It's really not that hard to figure out. Gun ownership is a constitutional right in our country. That's no small matter. Our country was built on these rights. That's more of the issue with anti-gun crowd. They aren't really fighting for human lives, as much as they are trying to tear away one of the foundations of our country.
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We don't have mass shootings daily and guns are a big part of our culture because they're not viewed as big scary killing machines (at least not by most people). They've been apart of our history and they're seen as an important part of our lives as they have the ability to ward away any threats to our lives.
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