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オリジナルの投稿元: Does everyone just complain?
1/22/2018 7:07:38 PM
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D2 is actually VERY different from D1. Stripped down skill trees, weapons feeling more mediocre, a weapon system that leads to spending most of PvE pecking at things with two primary weapons, our gear is now cookie-cutter carbon copies of each other with minimal variation - which sucks the satisfaction out of grinding. Nobody asked for any of this. It's very fair for paying customers to have criticisms and frustrations over the state of D2. You, on the other hand, are just complaining about complainers.
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  • Freakにより編集済み: 1/22/2018 8:30:10 PM
    [quote]Nobody asked for any of this. [/quote] I don’t believe that’s entirely true. I think the sheer number of nerf OHK weapon posts alone made the 2 Primary system in D2... All in the name of [i]balance[/i].... Now D2 is too balanced and everyone’s crying about how boring team shooting is and they want secondary weapons back. Hilarious! Be careful for what you wish for...

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  • I know I have never ever heard a PvP community complain because relatively speaking it's pretty balanced lol. The people wear rose tinted glasses that is all

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  • Nobody is saying D1 was perfect. But a lot of people found it more fun than what's going on right now with D2. And that's the most important thing about games. Fun.

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  • Nobody is saying D1 was perfect. But a lot of people found it more fun than what's going on right now with D2. And [quote] that's the most important thing about games. Fun.[/quote]

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  • MrGunslingaにより編集済み: 1/23/2018 8:57:43 AM
    YES...FUN! Is exactly what's it's meant to be but @Masochyst decides to act like the the newspapers and take what you said out of context and re-distribute part of your post that most suits his/her point of view by discarding the rest of your post and not even acknowledging it to reinforce his/her own view while quite frankly he/she did obviously not seem to take too kindly to being pointed out as someone complaining about people complaining lol like all the other folk who are just complaing about us complaining while us other folk try to express core problems with the game, it is quite the spectacle.

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  • I'm asking why everyone is complaining because In D1 everyone wanted the weapons to be like how they are in D2. Now that they got their wish granted they complain on how they hate it.

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  • Swiftlockにより編集済み: 1/22/2018 7:12:45 PM
    Except... pretty much nobody wished for weapons to feel weaker across the board, nor did they want gear variation totally axed. What the gamers wanted was for Bungie to take the good parts of the Destiny experience and build upon that to make a satisfying experience for the sequel. Instead, they stripped the good bits away and went backwards. That's where the criticism comes from.

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  • Everyone wanted weapons to feel equal, that was the main struggle of D1, and yes criticism is important, but whining and complaining doesn't do anything

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  • Destiny gamers that invested so much time on D1 and only to be massively let down by Bungie on the continuation which they named D2 has all the rights to critics, opinion on a game which is nothing like the game we have come accustomed to and enjoy. It took three fukcing years for Bungie to finally make their game working as intended only for them to leave D1’s game core behind and make a game so fukcing easy as D2 and boring just so Bungie can sell more units of their base game D2 to the casual. This decision from Bungie should be enough for us to see their real intention.? They don’t give a fukc about Destiny, only how much unit they can sell and cash grab from the Eververse.? Bungie’s history for having direct communication with their gaming community is non-existent, pathetic! Gamers that has spent cash on D2 has all the right complain.

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  • So complain about the $60-$100 you spent for D2 and ignore the fact to play D1 some people spent almost $400 just to get everything for it (I've had to do that). So if they really wanted money they would repeat D1, which as everyone said they've strayed from. So tell me how they're money greedy when they haven't done what they did do in D1?

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  • MrGunslingaにより編集済み: 1/23/2018 10:56:17 PM
    But that $400 escapade was over the course of 3 years and a console jump included to make you pay for it twice so without the console jump probably $200 as the jump was Xbox/PlayStation being greedy not Bungivision which D2 is most likely set on course for the same $200 3 year dlc program as the first so not more greedy or less greedy but just plain old greedy AF Bungie just everybody knows now. Maybe if you atleast knew who was ripping you off when your being ripped off then maybe I would understand your argument but considering you don't it's all void (at void plate) Plus almost all games that carried over from the last gen consoles to the current gen consoles had to be re-bought that was not something exclusive to just destiny so again it's just a nothing statement.

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  • So $100 is a scam for a game that includes everything but $400 isn't a scam?

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  • LMFAO what the absolute F are you talking about? Is that a trick question? I have no clue where you got that from? clearly you have no clue about what I said, are you trying to make me stupid aswell? Someone please explain this nonsensical statement, either you didn't read what I said or didn't understand what I said or both and in that case someone throw this man a F'king life jacket! You're quick enough to give them the time to fix the game but not patient enough to see if they are going to pull the same sh!t money wise as both will only be found out over the course of the next three years that is unless you can tell the future. One simple question did you spend $400 on D1 with the first two exspansion? so that's $400 on D1 before the taken king and rise of iron.

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  • I spent the $400 up until TTK

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  • More the fool you then because you got proper robbed but again it's hard to accept that your statements are credible when your playing chinese wispers with your own stories, just scroll on down the post where somewhere in the hay stack it was first $300 but now it's $400 lol. It was £80 sterling for D1 with the first 2 exspanions and if I count in the console jump (which was Xbox/PlayStation greed not a bungie stunt) and forget about the slightly cheaper price deals to upgrade my games and just make it another £80 then that's £160 we'll say so that's just the base game, dark below and house of wolves all bought twice nothing else. So £160 sterlings conversion rate back in 2014/15 with the US dollar (I assume it's the US dollar) was roughly 1.6 average so that would put you in the ball park of closer to $300 not $400 with this extra $100 that seems to be magically added just to try to validate your argument but bare in mind that my statement is only accurate if your talking about the US dollar, If not what is it?

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  • I had a lot of issues with D1 for buying the DLCs, so apologies that I forgot how much money I got -blam!-ed over until I go back and check, makes me feel better when I only lost $300 when that wasn't all I spent. So complain about your $60-$100 on D2 why don't ya 😂

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  • Of course like I said half that money you spent was not because of destiny but because Xbox and PlayStation decideds to do a console jump for no reason and 3/4 years later unveil the true "next gen" consoles and like I said if you understood anything I wrote then you would understand how stupid your argument is. Apologies not excepted as it's only fools like you who come on here spreading false facts and bullsh!t around just to cover the wound you have afflicted from this poor excuse of a sequel that's helps falsely solidify most other folks blind view that the game is grand. Even when your called out on your bullsh!t statement you still proceed to throw your toys out of the pram because you've nothing of worth to say but you keep knocking those fails outta the park big lad and keep complaining about people complaining... you got this!

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  • Or ya know you could quit complaining about the $60-$100 dollars you spent and just play the game or buy a new one instead of being a keyboard warrior 😂

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  • I did not complain about how much I spent at all LMFAO you just assumed that I did because of your difficulty to comprehend the English language and your inability to read...sentence...can't...understand. Just another fool pulling random fake sh!t out of thin air.

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  • Oh, and the whole reason for Eververse to lock most endgame content for silver in D2 is not of pure greed and slap on the face to their loyal fans.?

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  • A slap in the face would be requiring every DLC to play the game like what D1 did, eververse is perfectly fine, it's just made out to be this terrible thing when really it's bad because people don't want random drop, which is what destiny kinda is made for

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  • [quote]A slap in the face would be requiring every DLC to play the game like what D1 did, eververse is perfectly fine, it's just made out to be this terrible thing when really it's bad because people don't want random drop, which is what destiny kinda is made for[/quote] Destiny 2 did the same thing but worse till the community "complained" locked people out of already bought content nice try bud

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  • So D1 does that and everyone whines, nothing gets done and everyone loves the game. D2 fixes that issue, everyone still complains and everyone hates it. Where's the logic there?

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  • [quote]So D1 does that and everyone whines, nothing gets done and everyone loves the game. D2 fixes that issue, everyone still complains and everyone hates it. Where's the logic there?[/quote] Actually I don't remember losing vog or iron banner or faction rally interesting so they took more away and added it back and is praised by you where's that logic pal

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  • You had to buy every single DLC in D1 to actually play the game. People complained about that and yet you still had to buy everything. You don't have to buy anything but the basic D2 game and you can play. So how is that a scam?

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