[b][i]Counting the class item as a gear piece / armor piece[/i].[/b] 90 Tokens used on titan...i get the titan mark. No armor on hunter or titan, the loot table is seeded or something, the odds or pretty trash, [b]out of 12 total iron banner items there is a 41.67% chance to get an armor item and a 58.33% chance of getting a weapon[/b]...5 armor, 7 weapons. They should add a system of calculating what you have received so far and lower the chances of getting that item again per character. As of right now it looks like the loot table is designed like this: [b]each armor piece has a 8.334% chance of dropping, each weapon has a 8.332% chance of dropping??.[/b] The problem with his is that there are 5 armor pieces and 7 weapons, so the odds favor the weapons drops. [b]chances of getting a weapon drop is 16.66% higher than an armor drop[/b]. My proposal is that they should keep everything the same, but [b]instead of 8.334 - 8.332% chance for a piece of armor or weapons[/b] ([i]which favors weapons drop, since there is more weapons in total[/i]) [b]make it 8.334% for an armor piece drop, and a 7.61% for a weapon drop[/b]...each armor piece has a 8.334% chance of dropping & each weapon has a 7.61% chance of dropping. --- [b]This way, it should be about 50/50 chances for armor or weapon.[/b] IDK if the math is right here, i think they (bungie) wanted it to be 50/50 between armor and weapons, but from just basic calculations it seems that it is NOT 50/50 at all...if they did 5 and 5 (5 armor, 5 weapons) it would be, but since they added more weapons than armor in the loot table, the odds of getting armor decreased...[b]so there are two fixes: 1.) Remove 2 weapons from the loot table, make it 5/5. 2.) Do what i said above.[/b]

Agreed the IB loot is awful leveled up all they way to 10 got 3 armor pieces and 2 sidearms what the hell is that crap.

Actually I think iron banner is a nice reprieve from crucible for 2 reasons. 1) it's a break from the 90% supremacy games I get put in the normal playlist. Almost never see control or clash 2) get a break from hearing shaxx open his damn mouth Other than that it's crap. And you can't even compare it to what it was like in D1

At least give us end of match drops, nobody wants blue gear

After playing countless matches I got 42 packages and I still don't have the armor pieces I wanted. Update: 6 more engrams later I still don't have it. I feel robbed lol.

50 engrams... no legs. Great system for casual players but a punishment for everyone else. For twice the tokens players could have been allowed to select specific armor or weapons. A lot of people were disappointed in how this event was conducted. Crucible gear dropped during matches... why couldn’t Iron Banner gear drop as a reward too. Someone dropped the ball on this one Bungie - love your game but very disappointed in how those of us who grinded to no end were punished by the engram system on a one week event.

This is all accurate. I've also had terrible issues with hit detection and latency, the crucible is the sloppiest thing I've ever seen from bungie, and iron banner has highlighted every fault.

It really is shocking, on top of you said: Team balancing is crap Connections are still crap Seems to ages to level up, but I don't really mind the grind tbh, but I HATE -blam!-ing TOKENS!! Just go back to speterate XP and level up bars! If any more types of tokens get added, I'm out.

Bring back D1crucible

Like I'm just disappointed at how bad Iron Banner is. What a waste. It used to be fun. All bungie had to do was the exact same thing with different maps. It's sad really.

I've only played some of it, but all your points are valid. I was saying the same thing about the 4v4. 4v4 was intended to reduce lag,but lag was terrible today in almost every match. So the result is that we get fewer players, everyone sticks together or they die,and the lag is the same as D1. Oh,and btw..Control sucks with 4 per team. And what's up with Saladin's terrible dialogue?

I agree. I actually don't like D2 and find myself wanting to play D1 more. I went and checked if IB was on D1 because it was alot more fun than this D2 crap.

This is really weak crap. Iron Banner is supposed to actually mean something more than regular Crucible...and it's not. Can't level up, reached level 10 and only got two pieces of armor (did they really expect it would take months to level up to 10?), the only strategy is to stay together, match making is not balanced and light level is disabled. What makes IB special? NOTHING. LAME AS CRAP. And how about giving players a CHOICE of what mode they want to play on Crucible? How about letting us choose between 6v6 and 4v4? And Iron Banner should be 6v6, light levels enabled, and gear should be able to level up...and be EARNED. At the very least, you should get powerful gear for meeting challenges or level 10...an emblem is all you get? Really? Just awful.