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2/16/2017 8:16:15 PM
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Hotfix 2.5.0.2 Feedback

There are a lot of threads out there already on the new changes, but I wanted to give a central location to point everyone to when they ask me where they can share their thoughts. Now that you have had a few days to play the new changes we want to hear what you experiences have been playing. What do you like? What do you hate? What do you think is good but could be better? What would you change?
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  • I am sure this has been said but I will say it again. PVP changes should not hurt the PVE experience. I understand the ideal of having consistent performance for weapons whether in PVP or PVE, but I see this as a failed experience. I have no idea of how many players do both PVP and PVE equally, but I assume that player is rare. As for my friends list 80% of us PVE is our main activity by a large margin and over half never go into PVP. Degrading our experience to achieve a mythical balance in PVP is not the way to keep us playing. I really hope this design philosophy did not make it into Destiny 2, especially if we are going to have a hard reset of our characters.

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    • Fed up

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    • I love destiny but you guys need to do slot to make sure a loophole to use a crutch is not present. Every update brings a loophole and it's really bad. You guys need to buff golden gun. Triomines abd knives back to what they use to be. Make special ammo that you get 2 shots everytime you spawn and if you have chest piece with shot gun ammo you get 3 and if you use boots you get 4 and sane goes for every special except side arms. Side arms you start with the base ammo everytime you spawn

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    • Mainly the changes are a result of pvp complains / problems etc etc. i think the patch should only affect crucible. After all that is where the problems are ... NOT pve!

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    • Was nerfing truth really necessary?

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    • This weekend Destiny beat an absolute record It is the only weekend that osiris is down from 1 million games played And normally when there is some update the participation goes up quite The data is overwhelming

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    • A_BoondockSaintにより編集済み: 2/21/2017 8:24:36 PM
      Got to say what i dont like is the nerfs affecting my pve play. Im a day 1 player and i dont recall ever saying wow that should be nerfed while playing pve. I know tons of ppl are saying this same thing but its really a bummer to not be able to play a game without dealing with these unnecessary nerfs. Everything in pve goes back to day 1 ill be extremely happy. Except the shotties buff those back to where they were.

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    • Special ammo really needs to change to promote special weapon diversity - right now with how things are set up you are at a disadvantage without a good side arm which is not beneficial for the game. losing 50% of special ammo across the board for all weapons will mean people don't feel the need to run icebreaker, invective, wormwood or trespasser and we can see more diversity of engagements. But, people won't warrior anymore because if they die they lose half the ammo they have.

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    • I'm a top 1000 trials player. I play this game only for pvp. This last patch has made me go buy overwatch and try it. I am fine with everything in the patch with the exception of the special ammo nerf. Either eliminate sidearm ammo or revert the change. If a player gets within midrange on you. You are already dead. Unless you have a sidearm yourself. I guess your saying if I want to win I must you a side arm. Or camp my ass off with a jade in the back of the map... Please change it back or think of something else.

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    • I really like the patch and the changes, just wish it brought some more changes to trials to encourage a wider range of people to play. There really is no reason to play most people can't get to 5-7 wins to get the loot so they are discouraged from playing. I think the bounties need to be changed so it drops the new stuff and encourages people to play - this would benefit everyone and not have this exclusionary thing where only the people who go flawless every weekend enjoy trials. The flawless people still have their ornaments and golden lighthouse weapons, so they are still special and have earned something unique.

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    • I feel the damage drop off for hand cannons in pve is too much. Even close range engagements are sketchy now. I love that bloom is gone though. Truth dropping to one shot was unusually harsh considering galley has 2.

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      • I've played this from year one and got hooked very quickly, totally loved how the game play was smooth and fluent, the way the guns worked, it was like a breath of fresh air from halo and cod, but that was then, I've kept playing in spite of loads of friends quitting and playing other games instead, I hardly ever play pvp as bought this for pve, pvp was OK for a change now and then, but it seems that pvp seems to be the staple diet for you guys and not pve, it has been left to suffer because of all the needless changes made to pvp. I am now of the opinion what's the point in playing anymore or even waiting for destiny 2 as destiny year 1 was where it was at, fun and enjoyable, a reason for the grind to " become legend ", now it feels more like " became leg end " , revert back to year 1 and make it fun to play again. I haven't played any other games since destiny came out but the way things are going that will change, and destiny 2 won't even get a second thought. Your killing a fantastic game in my opinion.

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        • I don't think we should loose any special ammo. Could you compromise and make us loose half. Snipers need to be buffed take shortgaze nerf off. Buff thorn tics, and make a one shot throwing knife precision kill instantly, and do it now, I'm one of you BESt customers. Also I'd like an LDR WITH SHORTGAZE UNDERDOG RIFLED BARREL AND HIDDEN HAND ASAP. I'm not playing either... 😐 give it to me!!!! 🤤😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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          • I don't mind the loss of special ammo but sidearms should also be affected they shouldn't spawn with ammo every time, crucible has a major wormwood infestation

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          • At least give us special ammo back. No land guys can still snipe and sidearms that start with ammonia every round can out gun most primaries...this is a bunch of BS!!! Already all my friends are on halo and other games like For honor..I promise you when I say you are losing a lot of year 1 and dedicated players so simply satisfy the new and not so good players. I don't cRe to much about the changes just make it fair and give us back some special ammo to start with and let us keep the ammo we pick up to the next round. No land side arm or universal side arm..so wack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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          • Side Arms Should not have ammunition when re spawning because instead of primary focused game play side arms are over used and quickly becoming the new meta.

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          • [u]What do you like?[/u] 1. Throwing Knife now deals Solar Damage on impact. About time this bug gets fixed (surprised it was fixed as this bug mainly impacts PVE for solar burn modified and solar ability damage bounties). 2. Stormcaller's Thunderstrike melee range reduced. Not fair to other classes, especially Titan's with their T-Rex arms. 3. Reduced "Howling Flames" ammo cost from 10 to 5. [u]What do you hate?[/u] 1. The Truth nerf. Main impact is on PVE. Why can't we have good things? What's next? Might was well change the tripod perk to mono-pod across the board. 1. Across the board nerf to health perks. Re: Because (maybe just) one person felt that Hungering Blade was overpowered in PVP so we get an across the board nerf to all sub-classes and exotic weapons. 2. No special ammo in PVP. Now all we see are Ice Breakers and side arms. 3. No shotgun precision damage. Why? 4. The Universal Remote nerf. Reduce to 3 rounds or slow the reload, NOT BOTH. [u]What do you think is good but could be better?[/u] 1. Admit this nerf (I mean "patch") was a mistake and reverse it. [u]What would you change?[/u] 1. Almost everything. Leave the fixes (Howling Flames ammo cost, throwing knife burn), but get rid the the rest. 2. At the very least, restore the Truth ammo, un-do the across-the-board health perk nerf, and re-think crucible special ammo. 3. On the subject of crucible special ammo, maybe do not lose all special ammo. Maybe just half (but round up so you never spawn with less one unless empty at death).

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            • Sorry I didn't answer the questions in my last post: What do you like? NOTHING What do you hate? THIS ENTIRE UPDATE What do you think is good but could be better? COMPLETELY CHANGE IT BACK TO HOW IT WAS What would you change? COMPLETELY CHANGE IT BACK TO HOW IT WAS

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            • LMAOにより編集済み: 2/21/2017 6:47:23 PM
              [quote]What do you like?[/quote] Not telling you because the Bumgie devs will then nerf it [quote]What do you hate?[/quote] The Bumgie devs [quote]What do you think is good but could be better? [/quote] Yo mama [quote]What would you change?[/quote] Shotguns in pve back to original range and 200% damage buff from the games launch

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            • Also Dev's can't use personal experiences to nerf things. You can't need bladedance because you are Dev and died to one like that's abusing power as a dev.

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            • See you ask for our feedback you say it's up to us and you still don't listen and change things that we don't ask for

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            • Go back to year 1. You were closest to balance then. Auto were slightly better than everything else and you could have just ever so slightly nerfed them but you over nerfed them and screwed up the first "balancing" act and the game has gone downhill since. In HOW you were close to having it right but then you screwed it up again when you capped Y1 guns and you've continued to go downhill since. Since the beginning, we've simply wanted you to add to the game, not take away. We grind for our gear, our levels, our light. We don't want anything taken away. We want to be powerful, we're guardians. You've lost 5 players in my house alone. I see that we still have no reason to return as I see that majority is still unhappy with the changes you continue to make. I know you don't see it because you continue to go down the broken road. Don't be lazy and expect all the angry community members to search out this post to post their feedback. You lazy fools need to search the forums for what people are saying. Go into the "All" section, it should be pretty easy to see that majority are NOT happy.

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            • What do you like? HC accuracy buff Auto rifled damage buff What do you hate? basically everything else What do you think is good but could be better? The Devs could stop ruining the game with terrible updates What would you change? Make Primaries great again, everyone uses sidearms because they are the only special weapons that keep ammo. They are also probably the weakest special weapons yet are still far superior to primaries. Also shotgun hits going on target and registering damage is complete RNG now, didn't we just fix this issue with handcannons? hmmmm... Also, at tyhis point in destiny I could probably go through every patch since the TTK one and end up writing a book on a lot of the effects these changes had to the game that negatively impacted the game, I'm just going to stay simple and state my 2 core problems with this game. 1.) Primary weapons suck, movement speed is too fast for how long it takes primary weapons to kill, Nerfing movement speed would ruin the fun and uniqueness of Destiny, so buff primaries to account for that. 2.) RNG, wether its the accuracy of your gun, or the AA guiding your melee, RNG combat needs to be removes from Destiny PvP. This is flat out frustrating and not rewarding players for being on target, or poterntially outplaying opponents. I cannot count the times I have seen myself or someone else get someone extremely weak, wiff their melee due to this bug and get killed via double melee. That is straight stupid. It rewards the player for doing absolutely nothing (like that Skorri's artifact the two crucible devs seemed to know nothing about during the stream).

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            • [quote]There are a lot of threads out there already on the new changes, but I wanted to give a central location to point everyone to when they ask me where they can share their thoughts. Now that you have had a few days to play the new changes we want to hear what you experiences have been playing. What do you like? What do you hate? What do you think is good but could be better? What would you change?[/quote] Another thing bring back iron banner and daily bounties for iron banner and switch it to srl racing everyother week or month or somethung. You guys stink and need to listing to the community that built ur company. Think about that jack. Get you heads on straight or no more money for you from any of us........

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            • The primary meta that went Sidearm meta! The primary weapons is now struggling against handcanons and sidearms.. Why is it when you guys make changes, you go full retard instead of taking it step by step? Still no balance and straight from shotguns dominance to handweapon dominance.. and as always, nothing in between! Why I ask? You claim you sandbox test it.. but yet I goes in a totally different direction then you anticipate Bungie. Why don't you let a variety of players test it out, instead of yourself, before you go online with the changes.. it dosent make sense that sidearms has ammo in every round and no other special does.. you gotta try harder Bungie.. you are loosing players to other games now.

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            • I hate the update with special ammo. It has ruined the game for me. Bring back special ammo that doesn't go away when you die! Please!

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