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Hungering Blade Clarification for Hotfix 2.5.0.2 Patch Notes

We just launched [b]Hotfix 2.5.0.2[/b] which contains a Sandbox tuning pass and changes to the Crucible. If you want an in-depth exploration into some of these changes you can watch our [url=https://www.twitch.tv/videos/120721482]live fire demonstration here[/url]. For those interested in the bullet points we have the full [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/45661]Patch Notes[/url] up as well. In the interest of full transparency, we do need to clarify something in this update. Our test team discovered that the changes to the Blade Dancer Perk Hungering Blade were being applied to several other Health Regen Perks. Here is a quote from Sandbox designer Josh Hamrick. [quote]Over the last couple of days, as we continued to test the patch, it came to our attention that the changes we made to Hungering Blade were unintentionally shared among a number of additional elements (list below). While we considered delaying the hotfix to remove the shared change, we ultimately decided to live with the patch we’d made and tested. We believe that Hotfix 2.5.0.2 is an important step forward to maintain the health of the game and that getting it out to you ASAP is in everyone's best interest. And besides, no one wants to show up empty handed on Valentine’s day. List of affected elements: • Hungering Blade (Arc Hunter) • Transfusion (Striker Titan) • Cauterize (Sunbreaker Titan) • Lifesteal (Voidwalker Warlock) • Red Death perk • Suros Legacy Perk (Suros Regime) • No Backup Plans • Ward of Dawn cast • The Ram • Apotheosis Veil • Embrace the Void (Voidwalker Warlock) Over the next couple of weeks, we will be diligently watching and listening to what you have to say about these changes. While we will be unsurprised if additional tweaks need to be made, we are honestly super interested to see how these changes, intended or not, play out. We will be relying on you to give us your feedback as you grow accustomed to the feel of the game over the next couple of weeks. We will also be with you ingame, playing along and making our own notes… Apparently, I have to redeem myself for my stream performance anyway. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have a 1st date with a potential Skorri fix… [/quote]
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  • Hello fellow gamers and Developers, I haven't posted on the community forum before, but this latest patch has left a bad taste in my mouth. I don't mind the weapon tuning to primary or secondary, the Truth nerf is see as unbalanced. The balance to Hungering Blade was implemented so poorly, that it effectively rendered all other sub class perks that do the same much less useful, and the weapons that did the same as well. I find this unacceptable to be honest. I've been a very strong monetary supporter of this game via its in game transactions and expansions. I won't be continuing with this, I won't support a game that's breaks up classes and Weapons with what seems like no internal testing, and poor community involvement. There's a lot of other games right now that aren't making these mistakes and provide just as good a product. Let's face it, your a commodity and its spoiled if this is how you treat your clients. I'm truly sad at how the community has to post like this about a simple weapon patch that you yourselves talked about how much internal testing was done. Please hot fix the changes to the other classes and weapons, I won't be back in Destiny until I see some progress here. I'll be playing the many other games out there. Best regards Guardians

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  • From a Twitch stream near you: "Hey everyone! Let's go by the tree." ***Bungie master crucible designer runs into wall*** "Over here mate" ***bungie pvp god runs in circles trying to find his thumbs*** "Umm look at that skilled dodging" ***bungie pvp MLG heard muttering about a mean blade dancer that killed him once as he continues to run in lag free circles*** "Sooo ummm weeellll uhhhh" ***we told them we weren't nerfing everything...well they are being mean to me like that blade dancer that killed me when I played this stupid game for my second time in two years... stupid blade... stupid Shirley for not coming to our date... my moms basement is so cold... stupid controller... making fun of me... I'll show them... I'll show them all...*** "Yikes look at the time. Twitch stream is over. Can't wait for everyone to play this awesome weapon balancing our friend here put together over the last couple hours.... I'm mean months... yeah months. DeeJ out" *** shit that was bad. Good lord hope no one heard that...*** "Mics on" ***dammit. Stupid bladedancers............"

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  • Bungie what is the -blam!-ing point in nerfing lifesteal or health regen anyways I get hungering blade but lifesteal fix your shit please

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  • FIX THE TEN HEALTH PERKS YOU BROKE

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  • Man at Armsにより編集済み: 4/6/2018 10:05:59 PM
    Day 6 of shit storm... We have decided to clean about 20% of the shit entirely. Another 20% the shit will be partially cleaned up and smeared all over the place. The remaining 60% of the total shit storm will be left where it landed. So, we've heard your complaints and are addressing them how we do son. So, it's all good because f*** truth because my gunslinger got killed by it at least 3 times. Deal wit it! Peace- Josh

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  • eat shit.....this why i and many others including our clan as a whole have quit playing deadstiny.........everytime you all think you have fixed or improved this game 10 other things get screwed......this tells me that bungie as a whole are incompetent and has no real touch with it's player base only you cater to the scrubs and crybabies

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  • DMGRGNにより編集済み: 2/19/2017 10:50:09 PM
    I found something i like in this update actually, which caught me by surprise: hand cannons are the most accurate they've been in... pretty much forever. I really liked hand cannons in year 1, but after they threw in the ghost bullets, i stopped using them almost entirely. Now they finally feel like they did before. My shots are going where I shoot them more often than not. So, there's that.

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    • Wait you mean to tell me that all this stuff goes on, but wait when i played on a more regular day I would be getting suspended too. Hmm i wonder why i said i was done with Bungie better yet. Let me save up some cash, and i will come back just to prove a damn point. I am sick of the hypocrisy that is in the gaming community. So guess its time i dust the old system and game off.

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    • 1) The game is dead 2) Wait for Destiny 2 There's no point in clinging on to hope that this game will be somehow good again. That's pretty much all that needs to be said.

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      • Please make the health regeneration perks and the subclass selections as they were before. Thanks.

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      • Man at Armsにより編集済み: 2/19/2017 4:34:55 PM
        Day 5 of shit storm. Suck it. Can't believe my best loadout is Grim, Vestian, and I'm actually running aftershocks. Go to hell. We want Truth back.

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      • I played this game since alpha and beta. Seen a lot of downs a some ups but to me it feels like bungie wants us to play how they want us to play. But forget that. I still use the last word sniper, In Crucibles and trials. The only difference is it made me change up just a little bit on my game style. They want us to use sidearms, but it seems like they're trying to force us to use it. I say forget that everyone should just stick to their style in pvp. If you like to use shottys use them. Be a little patience for that special amo. Bungie may have developed the game but it's our game. Without us they would have nothing. Forget the patch use what you want. It may take a little to adjust but you'll be a better player for it.

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        • Attention Destiny servers are not available 2 days now

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        • Anyone recommend a new game to play? This update is pretty bad.

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          • KeeperOfThePackにより編集済み: 2/18/2017 7:47:45 PM
            I know it's been said a million times already but I'll say it once more, after all this is where our voices are heard... Right? Maybe, hopefully...? I'm extremely happy with what you've done with weapons! I personally only got warriored 2-3 times ever since the patch! Shotgun range is now 'noticeably' shorter and bravo! I'm not entirely mad at losing special when I die... It just aids the cause for guardians not to run around with their shotguns however, it does upset me in regards to trials because clearly every single person is going to be running No Land Beyond with a Sidearm... that just makes trials plain and awful. Also, why lose all special in Mayhem? I mean chances are you get special a lot quicker than other game types but to me personally... It just takes away the meaning of 'Mayhem'. Let me say this once again, I love where most weapons are right now. I'm extremely pleased on that part. Ever since Destiny's release I've been using my hunter. I absolutely fell in love with my blade dancer. Until I gave up on it (cause it sucks!) And you keep giving me more reasons not to go back to it. Why nerf blade dancer?? Like seriously. Come on!! The complaints were all about the weapons and how shotguns were dominating. but sure... just go ahead and make blade dancers even more pathetic. And no Quickdraw... lol why are they even 'hunters' now. Quickdraw is something that defined the character of hunters. I'm sure you guys put that perk in just because it made sense to you at some point. But just strip them off now. Maybe even change the name from Hunters to Hunted or something... Ugh!

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          • Ok Bungie, you messed up really bad. I could easily say I would have rather played the old meta over the buggy one we have now. Your sandbox team doesn't play the game enough to understand what the community wants, please recruit some of the twitch streamers that play this game regularly and are fairly skilled at crucible to give ideas about a future patch ie. triple wreck. Let's be honest Bungie, blade dancers don't need a nerf because somone in the sandbox team played the game once in months and died to a blade dancer that killed him because they got their health back. To be honest shotguns didn't need a nerf either, if you guys buffed weapons across the board this game would be way more enjoyable. Stop looking at your data and pay attention the community. First think about shotguns, in year 2 about 50% of people ran shotguns and the other 50% ran shotguns, because snipers were actually useable in a competetive environment. If you buffed primary weapons like you did it would have made it significantly harder to warrior like in yr3 before the buff to primary weapons in this patch even if shotguns didn't get nerfed. I guarantee if this game were more like year 1 or year 2 people would flock to come play this game. Every time i play this game now it feels boring, slow paced and stale. The only things that truly needed fixing were stormcaller and jug titan primary weapons needed a buff across the board and only a nerf to HCR clever dragons, the gun itself was fine HCR was the problem but you nerfed the archetype into the ground. Wake up Bungie, people are leaving, people are complaining more than before. Fix your mistakes and for the love of god please listen to what streamers are saying about your game they are the ones that every crucible player looks up to, they know what needs to happen to the game to make sandbox more enjoyable listen to the community. If you continue the way you have been over the past few months this game will be completely dead, and people won't invest their money into destiny 2 either, what you show us now paves the path for the game coming. There are other games and other companies looking at this community and are ready to launch a better game which is worth people investing time and money into. Please Bungie figure it out whatever you have to do but please do something because this game won't last the 10 years it was planned for at this rate

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            • Fix the helth perks.sidearms need to have around 5 in the clip after death or the start of each round in 3 vs 3.

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              • Already almost 5100 comments, about one in 100 isn't fury or incredulity. I'm not even talking about reducing armor and killing Truth and merging the weakest Hunter class and turning PVP into 45% sidearms. The BUGS goddamit! FIX YOUR FRICKING MISTAKES IDIOTS!

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              • Please fix these ASAP as a life steal warlock and defender titan with No Back Up Plans these hurt. I have come to count on these split second firefight changers and have been able to out play many players. Also the special ammo change is unnecessary just reduce the initial spawn amount and how much you get from ammo crates.

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                • SNYPAにより編集済み: 2/18/2017 3:12:25 AM
                  Help me to understand this correctly. So if I'm running a Titan and the armor is maxed out , by Bungie's logic with regards to this patch I have lower health. DAFUQ?! If that is not the most ASS Backward Shit I have heard I don't know what is. This is asinine as fuq! Rather than build my character that best suits my preference I now have to adjust my armor setting below 10 because if not, I'll have lower health. SMMFH. Fuq all this balancing ass shit and why don't Bungie just provide us with the preset characters and weapons they want us to play with it. It's apparent they would like for us to play the way they want as oppose to what we want. This shit is insane. We as a community voiced are opinions and concerns regarding buffing primaries, removing bloom on hand cannons, and a few bugs. Instead of addressing what what was expressed, what does Bungie do, gave us a minor buff on few primary's and nerfed shit that was completely unnecessary. Oh Bungie..........you mofos are some geniuses. Keep phuqing the community over and see how it effects your earnings in the long run. You may want to climb down off that high horse of yours and start appreciating the community a bit more. Don't think destiny is that phuqing amazing that we can't drop your @$$es like a bad habit and invest our time, energy, and money into another game. Because believe me you, there is another company ready for your @$$ to slip us to take your spot. Even the great ones fall from grace Bungie. Just saying.

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                  • how to downvote?

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                    • I do not like the nerf to bladedancer class specifically. But it has made the entire game different. I think the primary weapon tweaks was a step in the right direction, Nerfing subclasses was not. The game is fun when you feel powerful. That's the magic of destiny. When stuff gets brought down to a lower performance level it takes some of the space magic away. I tend to agree that year 1 was way more fun than now, with exception to the super buffs that were made, that was awesome!! I will still play destiny regardless the changes, but the game has lost some of its magic through all the nerfs.

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                      • [quote]We believe that Hotfix 2.5.0.2 is an important step forward to maintain the health of the game and that getting it out to you ASAP is in [b]everyone's best interest[/b].[/quote] Cozmo... I just want to clear the air, I'm not angry at you. I'm furious at the Sandbox team, namely Mr. Josh Hamrick. Now, what I would like to know is how this patch is in "everyone's best interest" at all. None of these subclass changes were in anybody's best interest, nor the Truth changes. The best course of action for you, Bungie not lose anymore players or money, and for the players to be happy and not direct thier anger towards you anymore is to undo those subclass and Truth changes. To be honest with you I enjoy everything else about the new patch, although the specail ammo "fixes" are questionable but not too bad.

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                      • Is this real? Or a hoax?

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                        • 5k replies and how many times has Bungie responded?

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                          • Sidearms need to lose ammo on death

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