I found something i like in this update actually, which caught me by surprise: hand cannons are the most accurate they've been in... pretty much forever. I really liked hand cannons in year 1, but after they threw in the ghost bullets, i stopped using them almost entirely. Now they finally feel like they did before. My shots are going where I shoot them more often than not. So, there's that.

1) The game is dead 2) Wait for Destiny 2 There's no point in clinging on to hope that this game will be somehow good again. That's pretty much all that needs to be said.

I played this game since alpha and beta. Seen a lot of downs a some ups but to me it feels like bungie wants us to play how they want us to play. But forget that. I still use the last word sniper, In Crucibles and trials. The only difference is it made me change up just a little bit on my game style. They want us to use sidearms, but it seems like they're trying to force us to use it. I say forget that everyone should just stick to their style in pvp. If you like to use shottys use them. Be a little patience for that special amo. Bungie may have developed the game but it's our game. Without us they would have nothing. Forget the patch use what you want. It may take a little to adjust but you'll be a better player for it.

Anyone recommend a new game to play? This update is pretty bad.

Ok Bungie, you messed up really bad. I could easily say I would have rather played the old meta over the buggy one we have now. Your sandbox team doesn't play the game enough to understand what the community wants, please recruit some of the twitch streamers that play this game regularly and are fairly skilled at crucible to give ideas about a future patch ie. triple wreck. Let's be honest Bungie, blade dancers don't need a nerf because somone in the sandbox team played the game once in months and died to a blade dancer that killed him because they got their health back. To be honest shotguns didn't need a nerf either, if you guys buffed weapons across the board this game would be way more enjoyable. Stop looking at your data and pay attention the community. First think about shotguns, in year 2 about 50% of people ran shotguns and the other 50% ran shotguns, because snipers were actually useable in a competetive environment. If you buffed primary weapons like you did it would have made it significantly harder to warrior like in yr3 before the buff to primary weapons in this patch even if shotguns didn't get nerfed. I guarantee if this game were more like year 1 or year 2 people would flock to come play this game. Every time i play this game now it feels boring, slow paced and stale. The only things that truly needed fixing were stormcaller and jug titan primary weapons needed a buff across the board and only a nerf to HCR clever dragons, the gun itself was fine HCR was the problem but you nerfed the archetype into the ground. Wake up Bungie, people are leaving, people are complaining more than before. Fix your mistakes and for the love of god please listen to what streamers are saying about your game they are the ones that every crucible player looks up to, they know what needs to happen to the game to make sandbox more enjoyable listen to the community. If you continue the way you have been over the past few months this game will be completely dead, and people won't invest their money into destiny 2 either, what you show us now paves the path for the game coming. There are other games and other companies looking at this community and are ready to launch a better game which is worth people investing time and money into. Please Bungie figure it out whatever you have to do but please do something because this game won't last the 10 years it was planned for at this rate

Fix the helth perks.sidearms need to have around 5 in the clip after death or the start of each round in 3 vs 3.

Please fix these ASAP as a life steal warlock and defender titan with No Back Up Plans these hurt. I have come to count on these split second firefight changers and have been able to out play many players. Also the special ammo change is unnecessary just reduce the initial spawn amount and how much you get from ammo crates.

Help me to understand this correctly. So if I'm running a Titan and the armor is maxed out , by Bungie's logic with regards to this patch I have lower health. DAFUQ?! If that is not the most ASS Backward Shit I have heard I don't know what is. This is asinine as fuq! Rather than build my character that best suits my preference I now have to adjust my armor setting below 10 because if not, I'll have lower health. SMMFH. Fuq all this balancing ass shit and why don't Bungie just provide us with the preset characters and weapons they want us to play with it. It's apparent they would like for us to play the way they want as oppose to what we want. This shit is insane. We as a community voiced are opinions and concerns regarding buffing primaries, removing bloom on hand cannons, and a few bugs. Instead of addressing what what was expressed, what does Bungie do, gave us a minor buff on few primary's and nerfed shit that was completely unnecessary. Oh Bungie..........you mofos are some geniuses. Keep phuqing the community over and see how it effects your earnings in the long run. You may want to climb down off that high horse of yours and start appreciating the community a bit more. Don't think destiny is that phuqing amazing that we can't drop your @$$es like a bad habit and invest our time, energy, and money into another game. Because believe me you, there is another company ready for your @$$ to slip us to take your spot. Even the great ones fall from grace Bungie. Just saying.

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I do not like the nerf to bladedancer class specifically. But it has made the entire game different. I think the primary weapon tweaks was a step in the right direction, Nerfing subclasses was not. The game is fun when you feel powerful. That's the magic of destiny. When stuff gets brought down to a lower performance level it takes some of the space magic away. I tend to agree that year 1 was way more fun than now, with exception to the super buffs that were made, that was awesome!! I will still play destiny regardless the changes, but the game has lost some of its magic through all the nerfs.

Is this real? Or a hoax?

5k replies and how many times has Bungie responded?