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オリジナルの投稿元: Trials needs elite separation
10/19/2016 10:15:25 PM
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The matchmaking pairs you up with people who have the same number of wins as you. How is that not fair? Also, if every team you play against is an elite sniper team, practice countering snipers. Trials isn't supposed to be easy. It's supposed to be a hard grind, with only the best getting loot. It shouldn't be easy.
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  • How is it not fair? Well lets see, if a team of guys with a 3.0 KD verse a team of people with 0.6 KD but they're both on the same wins, the matching is unfair. The 3.0 KD team gets a free win and the 0.6 KD suffers a loss. Thats how it is not fair.

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  • That is fair. They have the same amount of wins. Last time I check you don't get to join tournament and avoid all the better teams.

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  • If you have an 0.6, Trials isn't for you. I don't see why, since Trials is an endgame activity, why is shouldn't be the best who win. If you people want free endgame loot and completely ruin the game, fine by me. But I find it rediculous that an elite gamemode should be made easier for everyone to get loot. If you really want to get endgame loot, hardmode just dropped. Get a team, hell, even LFG one.

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  • Haha oh shiit really Elite? Okay then mate. Yeah your so elite beating those first few games where your likely pitted against the lower skilled.. do 9-0 against people of the same KD/Skill then talk shit.

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  • I actually haven't gone flawless. Never cared enough. But, I feel that its fair, and I have gotten close before, so it's fair. You're just complaining because you got your butt kicked by a better team, and are upset, and want to nerf Trials.

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  • Im not complaining. If im pitted against harder opponents and win. All the better... all Im suggesting is that the matching is unfair and teams should matched according to their skill not to their luck. Its not nerfing, its simply making it balances. But then I guess no one in this forums likes fairness or balance right?

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  • Matching according to skill creates tiers. It seems pretty unfair to give the crappy .6 players the same rewards the 2.0+ people are getting. So unless the elites get better rewards it's fine as it is now.

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  • Ah, but you didn't say that. You just used an example. If you had said "Trials shouldbe focused on K/D rather than wins," I would understand that.

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  • Dem tears doe makes me happy knowing scrubs like you dish out free wins. A 0.6 kdr with a kill/death like that youre going to lose suck it up and face it, get better, or just dont play trials anymore.

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  • I would've thought a .6 would be used to losing...

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  • Haha go beat some actual pro players then come bragging in threads mate. Until then your just bumming off weaker players for wins and deserve it less then those who didnt make it last week.

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  • Idk bout you but getting a win against NDS Talon makes me feel pretty good about going flawless. Whats comedy is you assume the whole card is played against only trash players lmao only those who are decent to the best go 6-0 and get matched with sweats to get that light house. Dont come crying in here cause your kdr is trash go work on it, look up the best players see how and what loadouts they run and try to copy it. Not everyone can do it but shoot its better than crying in the forums to get told the same stuff or worse. Point is if you want the light house get good or paid to be carried simple as that. Takes literally nothing but knowing your playstyle and learning to ring the shxt storm bell.

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  • Haha the 0.6 kd was example. Im not bitching, I rerun trials as much as I can, but these guys have a point. Why should the so called elite get a easy run up to 6 wins before the difficulty increases? If you were eliminated after reaching lighthouse or there was SBMM it would make it fair. Lets be honest that run against Talon must of been a hard game for you and I doubt you wish every match up was like that. But end of the day Trials of Osiris is far from flawless. Feel free to keep claiming its fine but Im sure if you played 9 match of people with similar skill/kd your not going lighthouse that often. Oh and btw Ive watched Talon a few times on twitch. Hes good but not that good, go play against MLG players then brag I guess I should of said. Anyways enough of this bitching and bragging. I simply explained how trials works unfairly thats it.

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  • Love how you think im bragging. Talons game wasnt hard 5-1 W but im more than positive he wasnt playing his best but shoot i still have a W against him and hes ranked top 3 for Trials so yea ima feel absolutely amazing from it. Trials IS hard thats how it should be the weapons are amazing and should be only awarded to those who make it and work their ass off to make it but hey you want easier matching so i guess thats cool lmao see you in trials bud ill be sure to shred that 0.7 kdr even lower

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  • Mate you dropped his name.... yeah thats bragging. And fine by me. End of the day I agree it should be hard, but basing the matches on wins does not make you more skilled just lucky or unlucky.... Oh btw if I do find you in the crucible good luck with that ;)

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  • The problem with your what you're saying, is that if you base matchmaking off of K/D, the people with the .7 K/Ds would have easier matches, and would probably end up putting more wins on a card than those with a 1.8. By doing that you artificially create tiers of players that all get the same loot, except the players that are worse at the game will get it easier. You know what happens after that? People start artificially lowering their kds. I'm an average player, and I've been to the lighthouse a few times, but hell, I'm damn sure I'd jump off a cliff a bunch of times if it meant getting matched against easier players. Same loot, but infinitismally less work. While it could be argued that since the players of lower tier are matched against equally unskilled players, that they should have just as hard of a time as those with a higher kd. But we all know that isn't true. It will always be easier to win a gunfight against somebody with a .7, even if you have a .7 yourself.

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  • True to a point. But eventually there KD wud go therefore force the once lower KD team to play harder increasing there skill. So when they do increase to the level of so calles pros theres no way they can say oh they matched unfairly. And also people with higher kd cant get easy wins either and pitted against. Thats why it would probably be better to use recent KD rather than overall to avoid the artificial drop in KDs. Hell people in halo 3 used to get banned for doing that so theres no reason for people dropping their own kd to not recieve the same treatment. Or if you really want to keep it the way it is. Have people with flawless restricted from rerunning and prevent Carries being done and let those who haven't been flawless that weekend just face those who haven't. Rather than facing the people who went flawless 27 times in 1 weekend

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  • But then you create another problem. People who carry, can probably go flawless whenever they want. If they really want to do carries and can't return to trials after going flawless, what do they do? They wait. Instead of going flawless on Friday night, they do there carries, and Monday night pop their boons. And the recent kd doesn't really work either . I've been sat just above a 1 overall, and almost a 1.2 for year three. I'm not gonna say I'm the best, but I can smack people around who are around a 1.2. 1.2 is not that great of a kd. That comes from me suiciding for coins and stuff. I'm probably closer to a 1.3 for this year Regardless, back to my point If I matchmake with people at a 1.2 and don't die much or have a really good game and end up dropping a 2.5, my recent kd goes up significantly. Say I do that for 2 or even 3 games in a row. Do I matchmake with people with a 2.5 now? How "recent" would we go? Way more problems are created when we try to cater to the people who aren't skilled enough to go to the lh and I think it should stay that way. If we do this, the people with higher kds get punished while the lower kds get relatively easy flawless cards, regardless of them being equal skill.

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  • Lol we'll see bro

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