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If you Pre-Order Rise of Iron, you're actually...

... awesome ...helping to keep the gaming industry alive ...continuing a great community ...going to have a great time see you in Felwinter Peak guardians. Edit 4: I'm putting this at the top of the edits as it's my reply to quite a common comment here. Some people are saying preorders are bad for the gaming industry as it takes away the incentive for Developers to make a good game. They also say that the devs are getting all our money and then just kind of giving up on the project and don't care anymore because they already have our money. My response to this is, [i][b]Forget about preorders for a second. When a game is released and they make millions of dollars from people buying the game. Does that mean they no longer care, they no longer put money into the game, they ignore the fan base and say hey we have their money now, we don't need to listen to them anymore. No, they don't. They hire people to patch the game, do updates to the game, make new content for the game etc. (this isn't just about Bungie and Destiny btw, I mean ALL developers). Do you really think that the devs want to sell a bad game? You are really really stupid if you think they no longer care bacuase they have your money.[/b][/i] Edit: for those saying this community is not good, don't judge the community based on the forums. A lot of the forums are a horrendous part of the community. Go to places like [url=https://www.twitch.tv/destinycommunitycon]this[/url] to see how good the community really is. Edit 2: This whole post is in response to [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/211538714?sort=0&page=0]this[/url] so when I said 'helping to keep the gaming industry alive' I didn't mean that preordering this DLC is single handedly helping keep it alive. I was merely saying the opposite to this guy who thinks it's killing the gaming industry, I don't think it is. Edit 3: this whole post is in response to [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/211538714?sort=0&page=0]this[/url] post. I don't actually think pre-ordering is keeping the gaming industry alive. The gaming industry is already alive and it isn't going anywhere, it was just a response to that dumb comment saying pre-ordering is killing the gaming industry.

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  • Don't know about that great community part....

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  • First off let me just say I probably will be preordering RoI but in this case I will buy RoI so it's ok to get the bonuses if I'm gonna get the game either way. But anyway preordering is bad for the industry in most cases because no matter if the product is good or not companies can say to investors look at our sales before the game even comes out. Look at halo 5 the ad campaign was misleading and a total lie but it also drove preorders but the final campaign was trash but Microsoft had already tricked plenty of people.

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    • Altoryuにより編集済み: 8/23/2016 6:25:48 PM
      Pre-ordering once upon a time used to mean just reserving a copy so that you could play the game at launch, nothing more and nothing less. These days game companies are playing hardball by offering 'incentives' to pre-ordering something rather then just letting people decide if they want the game at launch or not. It's a way of bolstering their initial sales to make them look good by dangling carrots in front of people by telling them they can get something cool by pre-ordering games. 'Exclusive' missions, weapons, skins, content etc etc. The worst of these was when Square-Enix tried to make a mission out of it to get people to pre-order Mankind Divided to 'unlock' content and not even all of it either, you got to 'select' your preorder bonuses. The peak of this was the top prize being...getting the game 4 days early. People rightly so stomped this plan into the ground and so it doesn't exist anymore. These days if games like Goldeneye were sold, missions like Aztec would probably be squared away as a preorder bonus since it was a secret level. It seems to be a tactic these days they are using to combat video game reviewers by getting people to buy the thing before a single review even comes out. If you want to preorder a game cause you fully believe it will be good then by all means do it I ain't going to stop you, however this pre-order culture of carrots and horses is pretty shoddy in my opinion.

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      • Okay, but seriously people, who really pre-orders a game that they're not already dead set on buying anyway? If people think that just these, exclusives and pre-order bonuses, are the root of pre-ordering you've probably lost all grasp on why people do it. Or that's just what you think the new fad is. I pre-ordered the RoI because I know I'll play it regardless and Destiny is really the only game I follow anymore (besides sitting idly by and wishing the Remastered Skyrim would magically appear in the stores). I only pre-order things that I know I'm going to get regardless on whether everyone else thinks it's really bad or horrible or not. Who in the world pre-orders a new CoD game or FIFA game without the sentiment that they're ultimately going to get it anyway? It's just going to happen, so why not get it out of the way. We all know these people, those people who always buy the next FIFA or always get the next CoD or always want the next of this or that. Or next Halo. Or next Dark Souls or next anything for that franchise. And they really don't care about the overall state that game might have *cough *cough *Halo *cough, they're going to get it anyway regardless. Just because it was made by this or that. And that's all they really want usually right off that bat and everything else can wait. They typically don't go out pre-ordering 5 or 6 games... unless you just have that much money. Or really don't care about saving money. Pre-order exclusives and bonuses are rarely, if ever, super good. Everyone knows that. Absolutely everyone. But if you're going to get the game anyway when it comes out... why the hell not, right? Yes, you win some and you lose occasionally, (as I did with ESO because I just couldn't get into it), but I really was going to get it anyway. Besides, if you pre-order then typically you can just download the game rather than going to a store and getting a disc. It's not perfect, but I resent the statement that people think others only Pre-order due to little bonuses. That's just not true 99% of the time. Some people do, I won't deny as I can't speak for everyone, but most really don't. They see it as extra incentive, not the main reason. Lol, and not meaning to hate on Halo players but, c'mon, Halo has never been higher than when Halo Reach was out or anything before that.

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        • ill never pre order a game. That being said if its just a dlc and I already love the game then yes I will pre order a dlc. Why bc I want to play that content the first day and then help my friends in the grind process.

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          • I say if you don't like the game don't .If you have enjoyed destiny ,and where it's going and where it's been do I did . If you dont go get your Atari out and play some space invaders .

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          • I preordered as soon as I could on xbox live.

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          • Lowkey more hyped for this than TTK

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          • The devs (unless they publish the game themselves) don't really see any of the money from game sales besides any milestones they have set with the publishing contract. Whether there are 200 pre-orders or 200,000 pre-orders, devs will essentially be paid the same. The publisher is the one that sees the majority of the money from game sales and pre-orders. I don't think most people understand that aspect of the gaming industry.

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          • Reagaにより編集済み: 8/24/2016 1:37:43 AM
            Pre-orders aren't helping the gaming industry though...honestly if anything it really makes the developers see that they can make promises, show off a bit of flashy gameplay and pre-order bonuses, and then push out whatever they please. It also let's them know they can withhold certain pieces of content and sale the rights to distributors so you never have the full game. Think about Rise of Iron itself. When they first put up pre-orders all they had to do was show of 3 minutes of combined cutscenes and flashes of gameplay, and then go "PRE-ORDER NOW TO GET THE IRON GJALLARHORN" and you people ate it up without a second notice. They could have made this coming expansion ass for all you know, but it wouldn't matter since they would have your money in the sweaty little palms. Now I know some people are going to go "Well I knew/know (insert bad reasons here)" and I am going to tell you that you DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. The future holds many different outcomes. Hell I thought, as did others, that SFV was going to be the best game ever and we were going to have great fun with that, but look how that turned out. Point is, it doesn't matter how much you may be enjoying something now, you never know how you are going to enjoy something in the future with it's releases because they could always add a feature that makes you not want to play anymore.

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            • Preorder...or don't. All I have to say is I'm a year one player...I'm still playing.

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            • I appreciate your post. Though I have disagreed in the past with the direction the devs have taken the game, I still love and play it. It angers me when I see ignorant posts claiming that the devs are just in it for the money. The people that post these claims have no concept about how much work goes into making games of this size, caliber, and scope. This is not the kind of job where you show up, clock in, and collect a paycheck. You need passion and lots of it. The devs that make this game would be making games for free in their apartments if they weren't as lucky as they are to have the jobs that they have. These people live and breath for their work and it's evident to me every time I log on. Pre orders are great because they get the audience stoked for the game. I preordered and I know that I'm stoked! And yes, Op is right. Pre orders are stimulating the vitality of the industry. If they weren't, why would EVERY MAJOR GAME DEVELOPER DO IT? OP, pay no attention to the negative opinions on your post. They come from a bunch of very bored and possibly depressed people, wasting time at school or work, waiting for the moment when they can go home and play they're favorite video game.

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            • Im preordering because i might aswell buy it at the same time as renewing ps plus. Also just buying it means bungie gets money to pay for development of rise of iron if they havent already and profits can go towards making destiny 2 and making it easier to make or buy dedicated servers and such

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            • Wish I could but pre-order is STILL unavailable in Australia -_-

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            • iTz FlashYyにより編集済み: 8/23/2016 3:36:10 PM
              It funny how menny people just what's reskin Gjallarhorn but how many of steps it going take get it.

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              • Would love to but I still can't buy it on my ps4.

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              • I'm excited but I'm not pre-ordering. I'd rather wait for the reviews to decide if I'll continue my destiny journey. Plus the pre-order bonuses this time aren't that special to me. I never fired the gally I have lol

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              • Pre ordered on ps4 and xbox1. Looking forward to it.

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              • Keeping the gaming industry alive? By signalling to bungo that however little content, however poor the game play, however little time they put in you will throw your money at them. Yh gg.

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                • 857 hours later, I'm happy I preordered. Payed about 18 cents per hour so far. I'd say that worth a gamble on a preorder I know I'm going to play the hell out of.

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                • I pre-ordered the limited edition FFXV because I love final fantasy and was planning on getting the game anyways, I also pre-ordered the gears 4 xbone s even though I have an xbone since gears is my all time favorite story

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                  • I preorder either if I have the extra money at the moment or if I was at GameStop and pay half on preorder and the other half when I get it.

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                  • Pre ordering in theory is horrible. You are paying money for a product you know very little to nothing about. You have no idea if you will be lied to, cheated out of your money, or just straight up disappointed in what you get. This does in fact let devs get lazy and make half assed products because they already have your money who cares about anything else. right? If you what more in depth discussion of pre ordering stuff go look up totalbiscuit on youtube I think he has several 30 minute discussions there.

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                    • I've paid $60 for a game that I only play for about a week and then I'm done with it, not even 20 hours played. Destiny, with all of its flaws, is a game that I have invested well over 2000 hours. This expansion is going to make me invest well over a hundred hours into this game, and for $30? That's a damn good price in my honest opinion!

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                      • Normally preorders are pointless.. they used to serve as reservations when games would sell out at launch. Non-issue now.. but for something like this? Let's face it, were all hooked lol.. we know we are buying it regardless of what anyone says so.... Why not get a nifty shader for my new gally? Haven't ordered yet (no rush, have until the 19th) but certainly am.

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                      • Sage 13により編集済み: 8/23/2016 11:32:36 PM
                        I'm not pre-ordering because honestly, imo, it looks like the same stuff as previous "expansions" & the bonuses aren't as enticing. If you like that, then hey, more power to you. I, on the other hand, am actually going to wait this time around and see if it's worth it or not. Plus, I am not content with grinding for stuff, only for it not to work next year, and then after that they decide to bring it back. The grinding & progression have not been consistent.

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