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7/17/2016 12:54:19 PM
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Why does Destiny make great raiders second class citizens??
Speaking for someone who is not a great PVP player but ran the fireteam for the fastest flawless hm kings fall raid to date I want to know why Talented raiders are ignored. Every video posted here is PVP. Every award they give is for Crucible scores.
I would argue that it takes more effort and dedication to master the raid. I have great respect for the top PVPers. But I think it is time that Bungie start recognizing those of us who are at the top of their game in other parts of Destiny. After all this isn't Call of Duty. There is significant content Destiny has other than PVP. It's time to share the spotlight.
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5 通の返信Because raiding is easy... Once you memorize spawns and have acquired the best weapons there's no sport in it. As long as you don't have that ONE person in your group you should never have a team wipe. That's why. Competing against other people takes actual talent, not just a bunch of rehearsals. [spoiler]LIO at "TALENTED RAIDERS" hahaha[/spoiler]
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Sterbenにより編集済み: 7/19/2016 5:50:50 PMThey showcased the people who 3-manned, 2-manned and soloed King's Fall. Doing a "flawless" run isn't impressive at this point imho. Soloing Oryx on Challenge Mode is impressive. Being skilled in the ever-changing Crucible is something worth showcasing- especially when it's paired with above-par editing. Being skilled in the not-ever-changing PvE which has only become easier since King's Fall's initial release is not worth showcasing unless it's something that has never been done before. Edit: they soloed the guys who did it on normal, hard and challenge mode. They also showcased the people who were the first to beat the raid and the first to discover how the mechanics work.
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randomhero204により編集済み: 7/19/2016 1:20:05 PMPvp is what gives a game it's long lifespan.. Ofcourse they will push it... A raid is the same every time. Not really an amazing feat... All though I myself give credit to good raid skills like your boy who has fast completions.
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1 返信Very true. Bungee should show raiders some love and make a whole set of gear reserved for raiders! [spoiler]...oh, wait....[/spoiler]
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8 通の返信Maskoにより編集済み: 7/18/2016 9:58:50 PMI dunno, man.... I like all sides of Destiny, but show me one Trials star that can solo all 3 old PoE's including Skolas in one day, without a defender or self rez and I'll shake their hand gladly. Maybe they can clutch a 1v3 in pvp, but let's see them survive a Hive room with arc burn and "Dismantle mines", then we'll talk. Not trying to hate on anyone, but keep in mind: there's some mighty hard pve challenges if you want them in Destiny ;) Btw, if you say "Pve is easy" I expect you account to have the "Flawless raider" achievement... For soloing Crota...
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3 通の返信all these people saying that PvE content is just static A.I. but the crucible is just hardscoping snipers, TLW, Mida, and supers 😂
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PvP is constantly evolving or being nerfed, each game could have different plays & tactics(aside from the annoying snipers who sit in the same spot the whole game) PvE/Raids you do the same exact thing, with the same exact enemies spawning in the same exact place every exact time. I'm not gonna lie tho seeing 4 motw in a row being nothing but hunters using golden gun with snipers n last word has gotten old n aims at the lack of content. Bungo pls delete hunters n rename them warlock jr's - Sincerely, a triple main .
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Nobody cares how fast someone can run the raid because it's been out for over a year and you could easily take any 6 very experienced players (which there are a lot of) and they could do the same thing. It's pve. It's the same thing every time. Players doing a raid can get their attention when it just came out and not many people know how to complete it. Then it's over.
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I'm not saying raids don't take mastery, but Crucible is harder to master. Raids are always the same, same boss, same mechanics, and 99% of the time the same strategy. Crucible on the other hand is an experience that is based by your opponents your game varies on everything that is manipulated by the players (other then the map) and you're success depends on how well you can counter them or outplay them.
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Tibbaryllis2により編集済み: 7/19/2016 1:33:25 AMAgree or not, everyone saying crucible montages are more impressive because they take more skill are being hypocritical if they support montages made in any playlist that isn't trials or an arranged sweaty match. I mean, the guy that came in second(?) for MoTW last week was proven to be loading in with his friends (and his own alternate accounts) and going 75/0 in order to stage trick shots for a montage. Surely that has to rank lower than bots in a raid? [spoiler]i personally think their should be a pvp MoTW, and pve MoTW and 2 runner ups. They could even change the emblem to indicate which was won [/spoiler]
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I think the CoE high scores were supposed to be an attempt to do such. I have watched many times more raid you tube videos than pvp related videos. If I am not watching a specific guardian in twitch, I will look for somebody doing PvE content.
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6 通の返信A dude solo'd Crota blindfolded.... Try solo'ing trials blindfolded. Raids are easy shit. Sorry dude. You repeated a process until you could do it faster than anyone else. It's the same EVERY SINGLE TIME you do it. It's never different. Crucible is different, you have to think and be creative, and plan ahead every time. I could raid in my sleep... And I have and its boooooring. Vault was fun. Crota was fun for a minute. KF? Terrible. Grab an aura jump in shoot. Jump out. Repeat 5 times. Done.
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1 返信Playing against a static A.I. is easy. Playing against another human is much more challenging.
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6 通の返信PvE and PvP are apples and oranges. Play the game for fun man. Stop trying to get "rewarded"
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6 通の返信because it actually requires teamwork and you can't make quickscoping montages from raids. thus, streamers and elitists can't get massive throbbing erections from their own "skill" while being forced to be "part of a larger picture."
