Hope anon pig sees this and answers as he seems to really know his stuff but here's my questions I got after reading the book of sorrows; towards the end there is graffiti from savathun? I think that spelled right. That says the book is filled with lies. Does this invalidate the whole book? Also xu Roth or the other sister says to her acolytes to collect the dragons and bring them to her to put them in cells. Does this mean maybe not all Ahamkara got extinct ed? It seems to point to them being if not the same at least as powerfully as the worm gods oh reader mine.
Edit. Just read the thorn fragments and the darkness fragments. Awesome stuff. Fragments are the way to go
Edit a wild anon pig appeared.
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2 通の返信We like to think that what Savathun did is the hive equivalent of writing hate speech in your ex girlfriends year book
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4 通の返信Regarding the graffiti question, my personal take on the comment "full of lies" is that Savathun has become to doubt the original worm bargain. In several different verses, Savathun has openly expressed doubt about the bargain. I don't think she means the entire book of sorrows is a lie (ie: the hive origins, etc). What she graffitied was oryx's tablets of ruin, which i believe Savathun believes to be a lie (the tablets) Also, it was Savathun who decided that she wanted to "grow different" and separated herself from oryx.
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4 通の返信Savathûn is the Hive God of deception, she told Malok who was her son (look him up, you'll remember him) to betray Oryx in his dimension, no real reason why though
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9 通の返信As for your first question that's the thing, Savathûn is known for being deceitful, so can we trust her? But the Books are written by Oryx, Xivu, and others (the Deep itself perhaps) the difference is seen in the writing style of each part. Seth Dickinson (the guy who wrote these as well as many other things for Destiny) had this to say on the topic of grimoire cards... Every card has a narrator, and every thing you read is up to the narrator to be honest and unbiased. (Paraphrased) Soooo back to the BoS it's possible everything in the Books are lies, it's possible it's perfect truth. Every grimoire card follows this rule. So look at it like this... Every grimoire is true until proven false . As for the Ahamkara being dragons........
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[quote]savathun? I think that spelled right. That says the book is filled with lies. Does this invalidate the whole book?[/quote] Savathün is literally the Hive God of Deception and lies, she has back stabbed Oryx several times and tricked Crota into letting the Vex into His father's throne world. I personally wouldn't trust what she says over the BoS which only real source we have on Hive lore at this point.
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4 通の返信Savathûn is a notorious liar herself. She's cunning and deceitful. The Books aren't to be trusted, but only because they are incomplete, and not because of her warning.
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4 通の返信If you read the grimore cards, the warlock card and then get the ahamkara scale. It's proves they aren't all gone. That card was after the great hunt
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5 通の返信Been playing this game since beta and always wanted to get into the lore behind it a bit more 😊 any tips on where to start, I've read many grimoire cards but they don't seem to be in any order, lol