i know this but i'm only doing it to make it easy as i'm to lazy to position bosses in a good way to get proper damage without the exotic this or proper posistioning does the same damage, if i wasn't tired of making videos already i'd make on to show you but i'm not gonna. my logic follows full-ish scatter hit = full nova hit on a single target, which in all honesty is rediculous because a grenade should barely even compare to a super (even a really good exoticly improved one) lance was because it has no extra damage for nova bomb and i wanted to test against single targets without anything giving more damage (tracking excluded)

I looked at what bungie Is doing and they said they'll look at improving the damage for supers on PvE

Nothing manacles do not increase scatter grenade damage, and there are no perks in the voidwalker skill tree that increase Nova bomb damage, so I don't know why you mentioned lance.

Vortex increases overall damage and nothing manacles make the grenades track which means more of the nade it hitting the target = [b]more damage[/b]

You can have all the scatter charges hit an enemy without nothing manacles quite easily l, and nothing manacles doesn't guarantee all of them hit. On average, the damage doesn't change using nothing manacles. As for vortex, enemies move out of the vortex so quickly the damage increase is pretty much negligible.

Both of my points stand. All your saying is that sometimes they don't do more damage and sometimes they do

What I'm saying is that on average, Nova bomb damage is less that scatter grenade damage. Even when the Nova bomb damage is higher, it isn't by very much. Supers should not be doing damage comparable to a grenade.

I believe it is time for nova bomb to get a damage buff as usually it can't 1 shot a yellow bar enemy