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オリジナルの投稿元: Left Behind; The forgotten Guardian Classes
4/8/2016 3:15:35 PM
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You want to talk about a left behind class, look at the striker. Yeah it's fine for now, I think all Titan subclasses are, I still enjoy the sunbreaker because it has a synergistic advantage over the striker (fleet fire and cauterize are still excellent together) But the striker actually has, a very sad history in the past. Save for grenades, strikers were always among the best class entirely, flash bangs were unmatched for pve and we all know the stories of lightning grenades in pvp But the rest is just, upsetting. Strikers year 1, pre dark below, strikers storm fist was fine for pve but did absolutely nothing for pvp and it wouldn't for a long long time. Discharge was the worst ability in the game, to make it work, an enemy had to be killed and even then the chance wouldn't always land to activate it, obviously bungie didn't think this through when brimstone on sunsingers worked just fine, by killing, all the time! Strikers were not wanted for raids, others felt shoulder charge was op because of its instant kill property and wanted stuff like the hunter throwing knives to be instant kills on head shots. Yet most forgot thst shoulder charge was a risk reward deal. Yet it became much more risk as a mets developed. A meta plagued by shotguns and hand cannons. After the dark below, or when house of wolves came out, enter the ram. Shoulder charge became more situational than ever. Add other abilities to the striker like juggernaut and unstoppable which were so specific to make a difference. It just felt, hindering. I still cannot accept unstoppable even with 2 extra armor. It's just not that useful. Then came the taken King, and with sunbreakers, we all know the story. But for pve, I was crying I was happy, this felt like what the striker should have been year 1, a Titan class thst had damned effects and abilities. It had synergy, and still has this advantage over the striker. its abilities, stoke the forge, thermal vent, sunstrike, cauterize, fleet fire, all had actual purposes and outclassed overload, discharge, transfusion, and others by miles. Sunstrike actually still worked in pvp as well To me as a Titan player, I was embarrassed it took bungie this long, this long to realize the striker was only essentially half baked and then sent it back to give more actual effects to talents like better sprint/turning with headstrong, make overload cut down the cool down on storm fist, increase storm fists effect in pvp, but not so thst it renders shoulder charge out of a job, swords made juggernaut useful. But still it remains a fact. I can still heal, benefit from holding onto my super, have the luxury of range, and anytime I kill with said abilities, I can freely advance or retreat anytime with fleet fire. Otherwise I could also settle on buffing the super to be homing or more explosive, all these work. I still mainly play sunbreaker and defender, striker still just doesn't cut it for me when one has synergy and the other is very limited with it.
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  • I couldn't agree more Titans need a buff in the Striker class. They can't survive most melee encounters for them to even be considered Titans. You have to face a throwing knife from mid range and a warlock melee from shotgun range which grants them a shield on contact. Striker is the only arc super that is a one time use.

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  • I could not agree more. I felt useless in pvp, especially with the Ram around.

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  • Thats because there was a lack of concentrated effort. I made this joke story "Alright lets get to work on the striker titan, then defender "Hey guys, Luke is making some neat ideas with that bladedancer" "Oh I have to see this" *entire dev team save for one guy working on the titan* "Guys what about the titan?" "Just do the defender, we will get back to you" Then we go "7 months later" "Alright so thats the hunter and warlock, wait what about that other one, the spartan knockoff from our last game right?" "How much longer do we have for this game? *2 weeks* "AH FIX IT FIX IT, KEEP IT THE SAME AS THE ALPHA AND BETA "JUST PUT THIS SHIT TOGETHER FOR THAT DEFENDER, SEND THE STRIKER OUT! "Sir, wont this cause, issues? It seems like we put way too much time on the other 2." "WHO CARES, NO ONE WILL COMPLAIN IF A CLASS IS THERE, GAMERS ARE TOO STUPID TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE, THEY EAT THIS SHIT UP IN OTHER CLASS BASED SHOOTERS AND NEVER COMPLAIN! LET THEM SUCK IT UP AND PLAY AS THE OTHER ONES IF THEY HAVE TO! *A year and a half later* "Well with all this sunbreaker hassle, maybe we should try something else" "You mean like ACTUALLY give the striker some unique aspects apart from the sunbreaker which we made strives on?" *Bungie Ninja silences that guy* "Just update it with stuff similar to the sunbreaker" "Sir that seems, lazy, it still wont have much to set it apart, the sunbreaker can still do all these other amazing things. "who cares, we need to get back to making the next overly excellent hunter and warlock exotics that in no way will break the game, you know that plus 10 armor leg piece that lets hunters be forever in arc blade" "What about the titan one?" "Ah just give them, *looks at list of other subclass abilities" A helm that grants them circle of life from the bladedancer" 'Sir that seems, pointless, why would we do that, shouldnt they get something else like, viking funeral or chain lightning, or maybe something like an actual new ability?" "OH YOU AND YOUR DEMANDS, look I was pleasnt enough to let your precious titans have 2 grenades, shade step in the air, and even that oh so important helm of saint 14, but you and your never ceasing demands, you know what, we will just give you another angel of light helm" "Sir we made that one already, and absoluetly no one uses it, our data says not even sunsingers use angel of light, its a near pointless ability." "You want to keep testing me, I can go all day, you know what, lets just give them a helm that reduces their melee range" "Sir thats absurdly stupid" "Who cares, the community only wanted hunters and warlocks, thats what we saw in the crucible and we shall obey the data, no questions" "Sir, you are negelicting a third of our playbase, that aspect is flawed and following the data is not a wise choice" "Shut up or you are fired, who cares, you are paid to keep the titan masses calm, we keep them simple and in back because we need to keep pushing our warlocks" "And people wonder why there is a class inbalance" *Flash forward to present day* "So we do think there is a bit much on warlocks, so for anything else, we here at bungie have decided to, slighty, very measly, reduce the warlock stuff by, .000000001%. So now instead of 30 seconds for storm trance, you will have, 29. With love, bungie. Community: WTF?

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  • LMAO I could totally see this

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