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CarnivalLawにより編集済み:
2/27/2016 6:10:49 PM
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Time to rotate the meta, Bungie
Since you're set on the ridiculous philosophy of the rotating meta, it's time to change this one.
Only you, Bungie, could take one of the most enjoyable weapons in the game and turn it into a plague. The MIDA was my very first Exotic in Y1. Now, I can't stand the sound of it.
You say you keep track of a myriad of gun use stats. Well, how are they looking? Are you satisfied? Care to show us the usage data (as you did to justify the Thorn nerf)?
Across individual weapons: what proportion of PvP players are using TLW or MIDA? Across weapon classes: what proportion of PvP players are using sniper rifles?
How do those numbers jive with your measures of PvP balance? [i]They don't?[/i] Hmm. Weird.
The TLW/MIDA/Sniper rifle meta is -blam!-ing [i]played[/i]. So what are you going to do about it?
[spoiler]Buff HC (but not TLW), buff FRs, buff sidearms; increase flinch upon impact when in ADS, and complete de-scope on headshots. There. Done. [/spoiler]
Edited for a typo.
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#feedback
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1 返信Leave side arms alone. If they get a buff they'll eventually be complained about and nerfed into the ground. [b][i][u]SIDE ARMS ARE FINE.[/u][/i][/b]
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2 通の返信Personally, I ignore the meta and play how I play. The meta rarely works for me, so I go with what does.
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1 返信The problem with "Bungle" is if they try to fix one gun, they mess up the whole class. IE: autos, hand cannons, fusions, etc. For some reason they can't separate PVP and PVE weapons fixes either, which nobody wants.
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1 返信I'd bet money that 1000 Yard Stare is the weapon with the most kills during this IB. You have to dodge 6 of them at the beginning of every match.
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4 通の返信Personally I think there should be a rotating meta every 3 to 4 months so that people always have to change up their playstyles. I'd love to see fusions and hand cannons come back and if love for pulses to be a little more viable along with high impact auto rifles. It gets stale real quick and you just start seeing the same guns over and over. Right now it's repetitive as hell and destiny is hemorrhaging players because people are tired of the same stuff. Even a subclass nerf/buff would be great right now just to keep things fresh. If bungie won't keep PvE content fresh then the least they can do is change up PvP
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2 通の返信The simple idea of "rotating metas" is the most ridiculous idea for PvP balancing I've honestly ever heard. One would think the developers would try to have the most balanced game they can, but not Bungie. Behooves me.
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4 通の返信Swagにより編集済み: 2/29/2016 3:08:08 AMI've been using Boolean Gemini instead, and I much prefer it. More impact, more range, more stability, and "Or Another" rewards bonus armour which stacks up to 3 times on non-precision kills. Been destroying with it in Crucible.
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1 返信I won't lie, when I go into the cancer that is PVP for my free 15 legendary marks I use TLW. Why handicap myself?
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5 通の返信I agree with you on the MIDA. It really does need a nerf. The gun can shoot forever and can literally bring down a group in one clip very easily. I don't agree with your two other points and let me explain why. TLW is a very powerful gun if used correctly, but let's try to remember that it ONLY has 8 bullets. It really is a gamble to use considering that it can easily miss. You usually have to reload after every kill, and you have to be quite skilled to consistently get kills at medium and above range, so it's mainly effective at medium range. I semi agree with your point on sniping. It is very popular to snipe because Bungie has made it so easy that anyone can snipe by allowing head glitching. I promise you that if head glitching were removed, the amount of snipers would go down.
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My god, regardless of what is done buff, nerf, or nothing there is going to always be a very few guns that are used once people figure out which ones are the best. Constantly posting and whining about it to a corporation/company that doesn't care what you type is not going to help.
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2 通の返信And pulses need a very slight buff. Aside from thr rare hawksaw/grasp, they're not competitive.
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3 通の返信Sidearms are fine where they are, i used one in IB and it wrecked, within reason. Fusions need a projectile spread reduction, they need to shoot perfectly straight, minus the vertical recoil of course. Autos need a stability buff too.
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3 通の返信Mida is great, but it's not the only good primary. Hawksaw with a decent roll is great, grasp of Malok as well. Doctrine of passing is amazing, and suros regime still performs well. People just use mida because it's what everyone else is using.
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1 返信I've mentioned the same thing. First IB, they decided to nerf the Suros and auto rifles because there was a major spike in AR and Suros usages during that first, ridiculous "level advantage/ a level 2 killing people max level (30)" crap fest. Anyways, Nerf the meta, I'm sure the usage will show it needs it And I second: Head shot = de-scoped
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3 通の返信I had a couple thousand kills with it year one. Now if I pull it out people think I'm a meta scrub... Shit sucks
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Bump. It sucks that you have to make posts like this. The reason it sucks is that if Bungie actually do another round of nerfing, you will be making another forum post just like this one a few months later when everyone switches to the next best thing. The rotating meta has been real since day one. There's no making Bungie understand that the only way they are ever going to have balance is to give everyone the same 3 guns with exactly the same stats. That way, no one can cry about something being overpowered. Of course, that will never happen. That's okay with me. I have played through every meta except Red Death (couldn't get it for months lol). When the next meta rolls around, I'll find something to counter it and carry on like I always have.
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1 返信So far there are weapons I refuse to use, I dismantle as soon as I get them.....1000 yard stare....I won't join the short gaze hidden hand sit in a group of three or four and hard scope a sniping lane....... Mida came up in Xur's inventory and since I want everything in the the game I bought one and put it in the vault. THEN.......iron banner came around.....I had precision bounties and 50 primary and a 10 kill streak part of weekly bounties.........I wasn't having too much trouble but it was taking longer than it used to......that staple gun sound every 20-30 seconds........ So I CAVED...........I pulled my 280 COMPLETELY UNUSED UNUPGRADED mida multi tool(no barrel attachments, no stability perk, no hair trigger perk, no agility buff) from my vault........and you know what? 27 primary kills, 10 kill streak, three precision kill bounties and kill X amount of guardians with a primary weapon.....IN MY FIRST MATCH......that says something. It's GOOD TOO GOOD.... BUT DO NOT NERF IT!!!! BUFF EVERYTHING ELSE!!!!!
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1 返信Yeah but on the flip side I dunno if I got it in me to suddenly have an arsenal of near useless guns again. Only to eventually discover and replace and then do it again. Just isn't enough room to keep one of every type in case it rolls around again. But I do get tired of the same stuff. Getting bored with weapons that I loved not log ago.
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11 通の返信It won't be fixed until they buff the weapons they wrecked. Namely ARs, Fusion Rifles and Hand Cannons.
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4 通の返信I love MIDA . I love it's feel and how it clicks with my secondary as a Fusion Rifle. Please Bungie don't nerf it to much
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Don't even use Mida and have not noticed it being played so much. But I am a last word 1000 us player, but ironically my highest kill count ever was with ace if spades. Not sure if Mida and tlw is as dominate as u say? Will be interested to see the numbers from bungie in the next go around.
