Guys I just want to point out that titans are meant to be damage sponging tanks, it's what they are meant to have over other classes. As striker and defender, depending on how you build it you can be incredibly hard to kill in your super, like unstoppable and armor of light. These two classes are less aggressive then sunbreaker. Now sunbreaker is still along the lines of what titans represent, but the only difference that sunbreakers have over defender and striker is that its an offensive tank class. A class where we hunt down the target instead of letting the target poke at us from a distance. Titans are meant to storm the battlefield just like hunters are suppose to be stealthy and quick. Going invisible and dodge rolling are examples of how bungie wanted hunters to be used. Stealthily sneaking up on people or getting out of situations that would spell death if you got caught. And this goes for warlocks as well. They are meant to have big and explosive crowd controlling magic. They are meant to reign down terror from either a distance or upclose and personally. Now then onto the super, I've been a titan since year one and a sun breaker since the launch of ttk. And the hammer doesn't have to be a 1 hit to other supers. And gg for example can be a 1 hit to sun breakers. It depends on your armor in your class. Titans that run max armor, which should be all of them in my opinion, are going to survive a lot of everything thrown at them. As it should be. But I've gone against storm callers running high armor and they needed 2 hammers to kill. Often times I don't get the second hammer off fast enough to kill them. If you run low armor expect to take big damage. And if your lucky enough to hit a nova bomber mid air, you better pray they don't have high armor or your not gonna kill them in time. Same for sunsingers. Golden gun has range over all other supers, requiring hunters to use their sharp shooting skills to gun down massive threats from a distance. Blade dancers that run high armor are just about as dangerous as sunbreakers aswell. Minus the hammer throw which is fairly easy to out last. And I don't even need to talk about how many times night stalkers have canceled out my super or cross mapped me with their bow. I guess what I'm saying is each class can be built to pierce another class, it's a matter of how you utilize your strengths and bulk your weaknesses.

I main a Titan. This entire thread and this entire argument is shit. The hammer is op. I know it's op because every time I cast my super, I see the entire enemy team running away because they have some dude throwing explosive hammers with god mode on. 1. There should be a limit on hammers. Having the entire super to throw hammers is horse shit. Hunters only get 3 shots with golden gun, so why shouldn't Titans? 2. The armor is wayyyy to much. A super should never be so powerful that the only really way to kill it is with another super. Keep in mind I main a Titan, so this is not biased. Edit#1. Please back up your opinion with some support or gtfo. Edit#2. God damn you people are salty Edit#3. Thanks to all the people who are actually educated and realize this super needs nerfed. Edit#4. Class is boring. Edit#5. 50 replies lez go

Of course you think the sunbreaker is the best subclass. That's because it is, and it's OP as -blam!-. I just started my titan today and I had no idea it was this bad. It's comical how OP it is.

Anyone else notice that EVERY person except for Titans want a nerf? That should tell you something.

When I can kill a sun breaker with a sniper shot Also when he dies by my gg shot It won't be op Other than that it's cool The only option I have is either tether him or run and running ain't fun

Don't you have some exotic that makes your nades and melees 1 hit with the burn? It seemed to be happening to me every now and then.

Fastest class, best grenades, best super, crazy melee... Um, not seeing the balanced part...

Lets stop talking about nerfing Sunbreakers and lets start talking about buffing Stormcallers.

*sees Titan profile pic* Argument invalid *walks out*

Titan won in mayhem rumble...checked his kills. 22 kills... 3 primary kills 2 snipes 1 grenade kill. That's 16 Super kills...it's not Op though.

Best grenade in the game Fastest class in the game Best super in the game op says it's completely balanced.

Titan was my first character day one, and even as someone who loves the sunbreaker class, it's absolutely overpowered. it needs either an armor or mobility reduction during super

Now I agree with u entirely. Sun breakers grenades and melee are below par, but when you play games like mayhem or are playing skirmish against a fire team of 3 sun breakers there is nothing you can do. How hard is it for bungie to make the grenade and melee slightly better and to reduce the armor on the super. I don't care if u have 7 uses, tracking, range, and splash damage but what I do care about is golden gun, blade dancer, sun singer and storm caller are not able to even come close to killing this super that and the fact that sniper rifles can't 1 shot headshot this either. That's it!

Sounds a lot like gunslinger... With a lot more dps and armor.