Give this a watch and really try to understand. Our first year of barren and shoddy content has never felt accidental. RNG and grinding for gear has consumed hundreds of hours. But why? This new hing with Xur??? ... I'm telling you, this is psychology, not captivation.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g79dWuqXe5o
Scroll to the trending posts. The top 15 or 16 are all, as of right now, posts that are voicing the injustices they feel as a result of this release. I think I have my answer for whether or not I should give in.
Not buying TTK after all. I'll find other games that don't have masked subscription fees and exercise a tad more transparency in their advertisements and community. Sorry guardians, this may be it for me.
Edit: Just to clarify, I only want to increase awareness for this type of practice. The release of TTK did not commence without many eyes baring witness. If every gaming company was to implement this tactic into their marketing, how much would we be spending on gaming each year just to play a diverse array of games??? And why shouldn't they? Destiny hit bank with it so they must be able to as well! :D
It's getting out of hand and allowing ourselves to be a rug underneath their metaphorical boots will only perpetuate it.
Microtransactions and noobscription fees. Welcome to the future of gaming.
Thank you for your feedback and for being courteous to other peoples' opinions!
Edit 2: I want to remind those that are resounding with this, "thousands of hours of play time, consider it cheap" of something. How much of that time spent was simply invested because of what YOU brought to the game? i.e. Grinding for gear, RNG being a pain, pvp and the social aspect. Now ask how much was really supplied by them? That would be like saying my pencil and paper should cost 40 dollars because I spent thousands of hours enjoying the stuff I was drawing and writing.
Much of your time invested was not their machination. They made it worth your time but It was of your own volition. They have created a well oiled machine that doesn't require they add in a huge amount of content, we'll supply that purpose for them. 40 dollars for 5 hours of NEW content is bogus and we all know it deep down. We should demand more content or a cheaper price no matter what.
Edit 3: (sorry for the incessant edits) please, if you're going to comment, be nice to one another and diplomatic. We can actually discuss differing points of view rather than cuss, and insult and trivialize. Might actually come to an understanding that way. I don't care if you disagree, Just don't be d!cks to one another.
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5 通の返信Phreezerにより編集済み: 9/16/2015 3:25:33 PMA lot of those posts are pissed off haters who have been blowing up the forums for several weeks because they're mad about the price, content lock outs etc. For many there is nothing that could have changed their preconceived determination that it was bad. For many nothing was going to be good enough. Nothing. Usually this is the type that give negative reviews on Metacritic before they even play the game. Speaking of which, did you see that almost all of the negative user reviews on metacritic and xbox live were posted before the expansion even hit? I really like it. I took off work yesterday and it took me nearly all day to run through the story with one character. It's a DLC not a new game so I was satisfied. I barely made any headway on the new sub class and I still have a ton of quests left to do to get better weapons, legendary marks, the sword etc. IMO it's worth it and I have enjoyed it thus far.
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9 通の返信Well, yeah, the rest of us are busy having fun because our basic reasoning taught us how this works.It's kind of like this (I'll simplify as much as I can.) More stuff = more money
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16 通の返信Honestly, it would be a complete mistake to bypass this expansion. I am not gonna fan boy you here, I'm just telling you that I bought the expansion, decided to hop on for a little bit to try the first level and maybe get the new hunter subclass, and 5 hour later I was killing Oryx, and didn't even notice where the time went. I decided to hop on the forums while I ate dinner to see what kind of ridiculous hate people were spewing on here, and I'm seriously blown away by the fact that all this negative feedback is on these forums about a game that most of these people DIDN'T BUY. Absolutely unbelievable. Don't listen to the idiots. If you like destiny, this is an improvement upon everything you liked about the game, with almost everything that was bad about it being excluded. It is proof that Bungie listened to the (actual constructive) feedback out there. Also, if anyone wants to respond to me about them stealing stuff or locking people out of the game they bought, save it. If you want o play Vanilla destiny, delete your characters and play the campaign again, grind for Gjallarhorn and do the Vault or whatever. Come onto the forums and complain about the glitch where you died because it was hard. If you want to play the endgame, then buy the endgame. It is as simple as that.
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1 返信Yea I feel like they completely said FUHK U ALL YOU YEAR 1 PLAYERS. I admit I didn't realize the issues that was conning with this game soooo I bought it digital and my crew and I are PISSED!!! Basically anyone who has been playing since day one got fuhked esp. Digital buyers like myself. I spent $90 getting the first game and 2 dlcs to spend $40 for TTK to only find out that I'd have to pay an additional $20 to get dance what 3 dance moves and sum thing else.... All my exotics that I grinded for aren't worth a damn anymore and the work it took me to level up was pointless. So in total if I was to get the $20 for 6 extras I would have spent a whopping $150 as opposed to someone who hasn't done a damn thing on the game can spend $80 to get everything plus more AND they get to automatically be up to a rank 25 just getting on the game...... Wtf!!!! If they come out with something new this year and I have to pay for it (which I'm sure they will) I'm not paying for it unless they make some MAJOR changes with this game. Pfffftt.. Green weapons outdoing exotic weapons. FUHK outta here 😡😑😒💀
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2 通の返信Those of us who actually like and enjoy the game have no to post in the cry baby section of the forums
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The reason why all the topics are so salty is because everyone else is playing the game, gathering opinions to share about how to improve it while those who hate Destiny just type their dissatisfactions. I would encourage you to buy it. It has more to offer than the original Destiny ever did.
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29 通の返信HoboMegatronにより編集済み: 9/16/2015 3:20:52 PMFor all of the people out there not understanding the situation. Bungie has been selling the house of wolves and dark below right up until the release of TTK. Imagine buying a game and then two weeks later the developer takes away your ability to play that game unless you pay them more. That's why people are getting refunds. Bungie really should have stopped selling HOW and DB at least a month ago, even better would have been when TTK was announced. Either that or anyone who bought both automatically gets TTK. And I bought the season pass waaay last year so this issue doesn't affect me. I just understand where people are coming from.
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http://www.bbb.org/losangelessiliconvalley/business-reviews/video-games-wholesale-and-manufacturers/activision-blizzard-in-santa-monica-ca-13075134 EVERYONE, this is the best way to strike at the heart of a business. The better business Bureau rating is one of the most prestigious ratings a company can receive. If you complain enough and do not get it resolved by Activision, their grade goes down. Companies would not allow that to happen so they usually reach a plea deal with all complaints. Please, use this resource if you're serious about getting a refund.
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1 返信http://www.bbb.org/losangelessiliconvalley/business-reviews/video-games-wholesale-and-manufacturers/activision-blizzard-in-santa-monica-ca-13075134 EVERYONE, this is the best way to strike at the heart of a business. The better business Bureau rating is one of the most prestigious ratings a company can receive. If you complain enough and do not get it resolved by Activision, their grade goes down. Companies would not allow that to happen so they usually reach a plea deal with all complaints. Please, use this resource if you're serious about getting a refund.
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7 通の返信Comes to a choice on if you support Bungie's behavior or not, really. If like me I don't and refuse to give Bungie money. My $40 went to World of Tanks. If you don't care you buy the DLC. If you're an ass you buy the DLC and are critical of those complaining now. If you are really an ass your one of the older extreme complainers in year one telling complaining players now if you are not buying the DLC why are you still playing.
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[quote]Scroll to the trending posts. The top 15 or 16 are all, as of right now, posts that are voicing the injustices they feel as a result of this release.[/quote]The revolt is real. Bungie is a tainted brand now.
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19 通の返信CMoneyStrethにより編集済み: 9/16/2015 7:48:35 PMYou could stick a hidden sub fee to all gaming companies.... CoD comes out with a new game every year, or less, 60 bucks OH SHIT! thats a 5 dollar a month hidden sub fee.... CoD map packs every three months OH SHIT! Thats a 6.99 dollar a month hidden sub fee..... OH SHIT! spent 120 bucks at McD's this year thats a 10 dollar a month hidden sub fee.... This is just a grasp of straws to give people a reason why they don't like the game. Everyone needs a reason.
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9 通の返信Because all the satisfied customers are too busy playing to make inflammatory posts on the forums
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So far it's a good expansion. I've played like the first three missions. Characters actually have character now. Worthwhile watching cutscenes. Though the missions themselves aren't anything new or exciting. excitingStill just shooting enemies In the head, and sometimes in the stomach. There is some exploration to be had. But, is this expansion worth $40 when compared to a $60 game? No.
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Its sad that this is the major discussion and not the actual content of ttk and peoples opinions of it. I guess though it makes it irrelevant when theres this much controversy over it and makes it an easy decision not to purchase it on principle.