You [i]kids[/i] sicken me. It's so [i]annoying[/i] that we have to see desperate players whining and crying over what developers of the game decide to do. Let's go over all the recent news.
[b]Hand Cannons[/b]
Bye bye scrubby players. Sorry you're going to cry that your Thorn and Last Words will be balanced. It's pathetic seeing how much criticism this has gotten. Are you five? Thorn was overpowered. The Last Word too. But none of you seemed to care that the Vex has been nerfed into the ground. Nobody cared that Suros was basically taken out of the game. It's because you trashy players rely on Thorn and TLW to have any hope of getting kills. I hope you Thorn Cruicibabies keep playing Destiny, as you will have no hope of going positive after this update. For anyone saying: "There will just be another Meta weapon after Thorn is gone." No. There will never be another Thorn. Thorn's RoF is matched only by TLW (Fanfire), and its impact, range, and stability exceed any other weapon. Thorn allows for a 2 shot headshot with its high RoF or 2 slow paced body shots. Thorn's MoD takes you out of the fight for 6-9 seconds, allowing players using thorn to have their health back to full while you're still burning. An arc or fire bolt, or anything really will end you at that point. There will never be a weapon as overpowered as Thorn. So I'm glad it's getting nerfed.
[b]Auto Rifles/Scout Rifles[/b]
Yay! Finally they become relevant. Looking at how hand cannons are now, autos never needed a Nerf. Good move by Bungie getting them back up to par. Especially with Necrochasm. It's good seeing fast shooting scout rifles getting a boost as well!
[b]Shotguns[/b]
Yet again, a huge blow to bad players with no gun skill. Good luck continuing to blink with a Felwinters one shotting from 40 feet away. Shotguns were getting stupid in this game, good move Bungie. Shotguns shouldn't be getting nerfed in PvE however..
[b]Final Round on Snipers[/b]
Ahh, the third thing to the bad player trio. Kids hitting pinky toes in ToO with their Final Round Ephrideets thinking they have gun skill.. No. You're just a bad player random exploiting b*tch tactics. Think you're a good player using Hand cannons, Shotguns, and FR Snipers? You're not. You have no gun skill. You have my regards when this patch releases and your KD's go from a 1.2 to a 0.4 again. Mine will be right up at 2.1 still. For everyone saying "Final Round will be useless." It will be PvE based. It'll be good against bosses. But if all else fails, use the million motes of light obtained per week and re roll it. Stop crying.
[b]Xur[/b]
Who said Xur had to sell a weapon?
Actually, who said he had to sell anything?
Xur is a joke. Why make an RNG game if he's literally sold almost everything? Playing ONLY the weekly heroic every week will have gotten you 91% of the exotics up until this point. That is ridiculous. Xur should have had the same 3 weapons, and 3 pieces of armor (per class) on rotation and nothing else. This gives players a start, but making them have to earn stuff as well. On top of that, most of the time Xur sells gear better than the ones you attain (eg. I got Feedback Fences with 44 Intellect 56 Strength and Xur sold ones a lot better).
[b]Gjallarhorn[/b]
Edited: A lot of people voicing that they've beaten Atheon without Gally. So I'm making it more clear. Gjallarhorn is a clutch weapon. It makes raid bosses, strike bosses, PvP.. Ect way too easy. It splits the community. Hell, I see people still asking for Gjallarhorn's for Hard Crota. Seriously? It's the Dependance, like with Thorn.
[b]Ice Breaker/Black Hammer/Fusion Rifles[/b]
These weapons didn't need nerfing at all. Bungie's only true mistake in the weapon balancing. But I expect these changes to be reversed.
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1 返信OvergrownRoomにより編集済み: 7/17/2015 8:39:50 PMghorn might make them easy but to those who haven't had it it unfair we had to struggle throughout the game and now never get the feel the power of the ghorn. And honestly..all you had to do to make it harder was not use the ghorn. duh. as far as the rest of your post auto rifles needed a buff and thorn needed the dot nerfed but they went overboard. It's going to through other things off. Just wait and wait for the unnerfs. This isn't the first time.
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2 通の返信Matsudairaにより編集済み: 7/17/2015 2:06:48 PMwtf -- I've run VoG many times and we NEVER use Gally on Atheon because of the risk of self-detonation. The [i]only[/i] time I've seen Gally be a [i]necessity[/i] is Skolas, Quardon and Crota on hard. That's because those elements aren't fun, they are a CHORE and people don't want to waste their time with those stupid things. What Bungie SHOULD have done is left Gally alone, and made other weapons (like Hunger) more relevant. I ran with Hunger all the time before I got my Gally, and as long as there was at least a Gally or two, things worked great. This was a bullshit way to punish the most dedicated players.
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2 通の返信I don't even have a Gally yet, I've had to use ashfactory with cluster bombs to get ish done. The ice breaker has been nerfed since before house of wolves came out and now its not as good as it was but its bad that when u respawn u don't have ammo anymore. So I see all these complaints about TLW and thorn but none about hawkmoon lmao this is a blamming joke not that I'm complaining but its just babies on this game who complain about EVERY GUN THEY DONT HAVE!!! PERIOD!!! I have TLW, thorn, hawkmoon, vex, red death, ice breaker, truth and more. It's not OUR fault that we play this game for days on end to get the guns and gear we want. You just get lucky from the RNG by PLAYING MORE AND DOING MORE RAIDS, CRUCIBLE, STRIKES ... Babies/Jokers shouldn't b allowed to play this game ... They r easy kills tho lmao.
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1 返信What??? You think we beat Atheon because we have Gjallahorn? I play the Vault with a full set of raid weapons and we still kill him on the second teleport without Gjallahorn. In fact I don't even use it for Atheon Because you kill him faster with an LDR, LongBow, or Icebreaker. The secret to beating him fast is getting good at Destiny
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2 通の返信We never use rocket launchers at Atheon. Now fireteams doing crota will require everyone to have a gjallarhorn because now they have less power. So they just ended up breaking the game even more. Before we used to carry 3 sometimes 4 guys who never done crota hard, we didn't request any guns rockets nothing, just show up learn and have fun. But now since this is going to change now we might only Cary 1 and have 5 with gjallarhorn to drop crota (it's just a guess I won't know until we test it) And about bosses with burn, we kill anything using snipers, forget about rocket launchers. I must add that it does make certain things easier but wasn't it supposed to be an op weapon? What's the whole point of exotics if they are like any other legendary. Firework shows like the hunger of crota.
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1 返信I don't agree with shotgun nerf, have fun with blue shielded captains in POE since shotguns were the only effective weapon unless you want to shoot them with a scout rifle for 20 min! Ghorn didn't need to be nerfed either. I never used mine in pvp because HMG's get you way more kills and in PVE Bungie could've just removed a burn from bosses like the did to Skolas. Also removing the white nail perk from Black Hammer is retarded! It requires skill to land all precision shots and should be rewarded!
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2 通の返信1. You are crying yourself 2. I agree with most you said 3. Gally didnt needed the nerf. 4. Atheon doesnt need Gally. Its easy peasy and most of the community can do it. Who cant do it easily are new players base.
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15 通の返信ADeadGuardianにより編集済み: 7/17/2015 12:27:49 PM[quote]. Try beating Atheon when no one has it. Haha. Bet 60% of the community can't.[/quote] Wow youre a noob if you [b]need[/b] gjallarhorn for atheon. Youre a scrub if you even use it. Get your sniper out, scrub.
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2 通の返信Only The Exotic Handcannons are OP, And the fellwinter needs to be like this. Close/mid Range and hard hitting. If you miss, your dead.
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2 通の返信All this granular, across the board weapon balancing is out of control and totally unnecessary. This new patch will have essentially ruined every single decent PVE weapon in this game, because someone decides to use it as a preferred weapon or PVP players complain about it? I refuse to support such self-destructive regression. I'll be glad to know what date the new patch pushes, because that will be my last day. I'm so glad I didn't order TTK yesterday. What a shame. The Bungie sand box kids should have found a way to sort PVP out and left PVE alone, as there were no complaints from the PVE camp. This was such a good game before the weapons "balancing" started. Good luck with a 10yr plan..
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1 返信eternal_napalmにより編集済み: 7/17/2015 4:32:28 PM
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1 返信I can honestly say I have NEVER launched a gally rocket at atheon and my raid teams never did either. We ran VOG on hard when we were lvl 28's on a weekly basis until we leveled. We didn't use rockets because there was zero room for error. 1 man lost due to blowing himself up or atheon landing a hit on him we couldn't overcome. We used snipers and heavy machine guns. Those that were sniping would equip a rocket for when they got teleported to dps some health off ads for the relic holder. Dudes on the outside saved heavy and used primary secondary for supplicants.
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2 通の返信Agree with most of your point man, thorn isn't a bad nerd because now DoT stacks which I. A way makes it a little stronger but the overall hand cannon nerf makes it balanced(I have thorn and have no problem with this whatsoever, noobs quit whining and work towards those exotic bountys)
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Completely agree. Why complain now anyways? Why not wait and see when the update is actually applied to see how it will affect everything. Maybe this will fix the problems with the weapon selection in this game. Everyone uses the same weapons no matter what game mode they play. This will create more diversity by making players having to adapt to other weapons now while hopefully making things more balanced. Thorn will still be powerful, but will function more like a Hand Cannon should.
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They don't give a shit about the time and effort involved achieving all the crap they have made available. Else they wouldn't change the rules and values all the -blam!-ing time. They have no respect for the idiots who bought this game. Sorry about the novel.
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1 返信The only thin I don't like is the fusion rifle nerf. Everything else is nicely done. For black hammer It should be every white nail takes 1 shot away no just pull it from the reserve ammo
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1 返信You should never use rockets on Athlon only snipers. He goes down way faster an the gally is the best thing to use when your the last man standing on the nightfall an there's a mob chasing u an you don't have a grenade. Yes it's a clutch but it should have just been sold by xur, problem solved. Other then the gally I agree with you all the way.
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15 通の返信Matsudairaにより編集済み: 7/17/2015 3:56:03 PMGally doesn't make them "way too easy", it makes them tolerable because Bungie has made them tedious without it. There is nothing FUN about those particular bosses. Without Gally strategies, they are a tedious, frustrating, boring bullet sponge. A waste of time. Apparently Bungie has no respect for our time and thinks we're okay with wasting hours in their anemic world -- which most of the time ends with zero payoff. They need to quit controlling how we play the game and let us do what WE find is fun and appropriate for the time. I'm surprised they haven't patched all the cheese strategies yet -- especially the Bridge on Crota.