The damage Trials has done to the game is severe. The social implications of making arguably the best pve weapons only obtainable from going 9 - 0 in a pvp game type are already destroying the game. Most people I play with have had clans split apart. This is due to the max players in an activity being three. You would think the other three would then make a group but the best players are only playing with the best and the ones who are lower skilled end up doing nothing with anyone. The result is people are not playing with others solely based on skill in the game. These lower skilled people will not progress and as a result leave the game. Trials combines the worst aspects of fps into one failed and broken game type. In Trials lower skilled players cannot even get a team to attempt the content. Period. When they do it is a massacre so they quit and the better players avoid them. Half my friends list alternates between visible and invisible in an attempt to AVOID PEOPLE. I am not talking about me but others. They do not want to tell others no to playing with them so hiding seems to be the preferred option. Destiny went from a fun and relaxed game to this? Half the time the only reason I know someone is on because they invite me to a party. Why you invis? To avoid this dude.... The flawless requirement literally destroys Trials. One win and you are out which is tedious and boring. It also brings out the worst in people. Friends are fighting and getting angry. Deleting people from friends list and blocking. Already today three people logged off upset. Two people yelled at each other. NO ONE IS HAVING FUN. AT ALL. Now take all I said above and add the very common and pervasive cheating going on in Trials. Ddos attacks, lag switches, aim bots, and other crap that further ruin the player experience. So you go 8 - 0 only to lose because the other team booted one of your team mates or lags so bad it takes an entire team to kill them. It is a miserable experience. In the final analysis none of this is fun. Even poe is not fun because I cannot do 34 and 35 with a lot of my friends. I cannot justify purchasing another product from a company that releases content this bad. If the requirements to get Lighthouse were reasonable I would keep at it but they are not. The content alienates people. I don't mind grinding or hard content. What I do not like is content that destroys your friends list, splits people apart, and ruins what in many ways was a social game. Bungie better take notice and deal with this. Everyone changes games. This is the first time since playing this game from release that I can honestly say the MAJORITY OF MY FRIENDS ARE NOT HAVING FUN. EDIT: I agree with what a lot of people are saying on both sides. I believe many would not have purchased this game if content was like Trials. The social issues are real whether ones wants to admit them or not. In the end, Destiny is just a game. Lol. Just play something else and frankly I have lost most, if not all, of my faith in Bungie. Even Iron Banner was doable for everyone given a long timeline. If you really want that item grind it out. Sure others may get it in a shorter or longer time frame but you could play with anyone and still progress. It was fine. EDIT 2: Some idiots are comparing Trials to mlg. MLG not part of the core game nor does it have rewards in game. It is seperate from the game. EDIT 3: If you are to stupid to NOT finish reading the orginal post don't bother to comment. The dudes who write "I stopped reading at....." are to stupid to finish reading a paragraph and should not comment. Lol. Also, based on the people I know in game Trials has definately not breathed life into Destiny. Instead it is ruining it. I have never witnessed this much disdain and overall negatively towards a dlc. The premise behind Trials is flawed and only appeals to a minority of the player base at the expense of the majority. People did not buy the dlc to never have access to the Lighthouse and rewards. EDIT 4: If you love pvp odds are you will try the new Halo. Most, if not all, the hard core pvp players I know in Destiny have every intention of playing Halo. Destiny has some major issues with pvp regarding weapon balance, class balance, and map design. When 90% of the players use hand cannons and 2% use assualt rifles (an entire class of wespons) you have no balance. Destiny also does not have leader boards and a viable skill measuring system in game. All hardcover pvp players want is recognition and a place to compete. The introduction of private matches and visible in game leader boards would have worked 10 times better than Trials. If I were a betting man I believe Halo will result in a mass exodus of pvpers from Destiny who will not come back. The supers and other issues are major problems for Destiny pvp. Destiny's niche was mmo style pve or the pvers... but Trials has caused major issues with this relationship and frankly people I know who were Destiny fanatics have started looking for other games. Trials is poison and is catering to a portion of the player base that will likely leave the game anyway. The sad thing is all Bungie had to do was make more reasonable methods to obtain lighthouse. 18 wins no matter how many lost games. Point totals that stay with your character over multiple passages that eventually give access like rep. IB was implemented well because given time anyone could succeed. Granted the better players got rewards faster but everyone given time could succeed. This is all interesting. EDIT 5: Playing against cheaters is unavoidable in fps and you must learn to both accept and deal with it. The issue with Trials is that flawless is so unforgiving it compounds the impact. One lost game due to cheating (not accounting for boons) and you start over. It is the fact flawless is so ridiculous.