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3/6/2015 8:44:40 PM
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Unbalanced Raid Loot Acquisition
I recently posted this under a different subsection, but it got NO attention other than a friend of mine, so I decided to move it to where I think would be a more populated area for this type of complaint.
Not everyone plays this game like mad, but there are people who like to help people through the raids, and I beleive that there should be multiple times that you can acquire the raid gear, at least from Crotchety old Crota.
The reason I say this is because for the past 4 weeks I've been doing this raid, regardless of players, I've gotten repeat loot. and that's totally fine, given the circumstances of the random loot table, BUT, that doesn't take away from the fact that I probably at this point [u][i]deserve[/i][/u] the helmet I want to make my armor look cool.
I feel if there were more chances to get the loot, maybe people wouldn't complain as much about the raids themselves, and maybe they'd even help out the Nubs who can't find a party on their own, so that way they can get some radiant shards or something. from one run you could probably get around 12-15 radiant shards if you dismantle all of the acquired gear(if you get a drop in every area), maybe to counter this increase in shard acquisition, we could take away the shards that eris sells, seeing as though this would unbalance the shards.
another thing I could probably add, bring back a use for the ascendant shards.
Not to sound whiny, but not everyone even wants to run these raids. I've heard VERY concerning things from your players about this game and the raids especially, and I hate hearing things like this. let them stop whining, and just make it a little more fair. that's all we ever really wanted. fairness.
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1 返信leon bulminotにより編集済み: 3/10/2015 10:09:43 PMI have gotten seven no land beyonds from crota raid, and one thunderlord from crota. I kept the last no land beyond. Loot system is fine. Does it suck to be a casual in that case? Yes but why should you get top gear and such when guys have poured way more time into it and you want it for just playing? That's like someone being on welfare and demanding more money because people with real jobs make more money than them and they feel they deserve some even though they only work at McDonald's. Play more or try saving up legendary engrams for one big decrypting session. Either way, I disagree with you on handing out the best gear because you're a casual player. It's unfair to the guys who sink the time in to get that stuff. As for the folks getting jewed by RNG at death singer......my heart goes out to you.
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1 返信For the last month I have only gotten no land beyond or nothing from the witches. 3 characters a week. Did 1 run this morning and got it again... too bad we cant start arming the civs in the tower.
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I mean, not everyone has access to six(decent) people, and not everyone has the time it takes for 6(counting the normal, to maximize gear chance I guess) of those raids even if you had three warlocks, that is if you wanted to still play vanguard and crucible. even spaced out into the week thats a lot of time if you don't have people who are right on point. glitches are glitches and they impact that too, in a small way. as you can tell, I'm trying to see this from a point of view of someone who doesn't have a lot of time to play games.
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2 通の返信Would you rather it be unlimited but with insanely decreased chances of wining loot?
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1 返信the poll for this thread for some reason is as follows, 38 58 55 remarkably, the other post i made in a seperate forum got a lot of attention after i created a new one here, which I hadn't anticipated, the numbers for that one are quite different, so I'll post them and a link below if you guys are interested, but i may delete it at some later point. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/106456417/0/0 49 for one time 12 for 3 12 for inf.
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Sure would be nice to get some reputation/marks for running the weekly strikes for each time after the first! I run it about 6-7 times a week, once for each of my 3 characters, and three or four other times helping friends. It's those 3-4 other times that usually take 30-60 minutes each that feel all too altruistic. At least it's not like the raids, and we can still work up armor/weapons, and get glimmer.
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4 通の返信putridcarnageにより編集済み: 3/7/2015 6:58:56 AMOMG dude. Have you ever even played VOG. It took me 3 months of playing normal once a week on two characters (average) to get two of my three characters to lvl 30. With Crotas End, I had a full set of gear on all three of my characters and enough shards to get 2 of them to lvl 33 in 4 weeks. By week 5, I had every raid weapon (except necrochasm) and all three characters were lvl 32. The drops are fine as is.
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4 通の返信I'll just add that, even if I DID get the loot i wanted, I'd still have a problem with there only being one instance of loot per char. as I've said, I have 3 characters, all different types. i can only run crota once a week. once i run it, i wont run it again, like most. not having this piece at this point just feels like a slap in the face, and I'd have it if i could run it even twice a week.
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I would add some sort of raid currency that you can earn. Normal drops still happen once a week but this raid coin would have a small chance of dropping (around 10 percent for the end boss and 5 percent at the other checkpoints) on each run after the first.
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1 返信I really hate how subversive that these polls can be. Just because I am happy with the current loot distribution, doesn't mean I'm saying "screw casuals", nor does allowing for more drop chances mean that it will be balanced. The issue is more complex, and while I do agree that it needs to be addressed, I refuse to vote in polls with inherent bias built in.
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1 返信from the other post, from superpowereddan 5h 13m ago Once per week is enough. I think instead of getting drops throughout the raid, we should get some sort of raid credit at the end that can be used to purchase raid gear from a vendor.
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FilthyFloodにより編集済み: 3/7/2015 1:35:27 AMI would really like to see some more people commenting. the votes are as follows, realistically 5 17 7 that makes 29 votes... all of two people commented. [u][b][i]IF YOU REALLY WANT SOMETHING CHANGED, THEY NEED TO HEAR YOUR INPUT.[/i][/b][/u] I can NOT be the only person willing to voice their opinion about this, and I really wish Bungie would say something, even though i doubt they will unless, as i said, there's more comment traffic. also, bump.
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1 返信Lockouts are a bad practice. Especially when your content is slow small you repeate the same 5 maps but with little modifiers. Raids being a once a week thing was a bad call.
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there may be a problem with the polls. when I enter this thread, the polls show the two responses on the top and bottom have a majority vote, and the one in the middle is a minority vote. when I click on any of them, as if to submit a vote, it changes to the middle section drastically outweighing the other two. not sure if this is just me seeing this, but I can guarantee the common consensus is to have 3x raid resets, probably with what I said in consideration about the shards.. i just want to see what others think.
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1 返信Someone posted in my last post that we have three characters who can run it, and this is very true, however i was thinking a way to balance the shard gathering for THAT would be, make the shard acquisition separate from gear acquisition. in other words; you would get shards the first time in the chests for each character, and maybe at some checkpoints, but you would never get them again after the first time you did hard. the other two times you wanted to run the raid, for that character, you would ONLY get armor, and a chance for an exotic at the end, like it should be. any feedback is welcome. I want this to be noticed and something done about.
