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Doctor Coxにより編集済み:
2/12/2015 6:11:54 PM
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[quote]Super dragon fist would destroy it [/quote]
Citation needed for your claim of it having infinite power. For example, the only time a C'Tan was killed, it was done with a weapon that almost and should have destroyed the universe. If Goku can't bust a universe (with Citation showing his capability to do so) with anything other than a wish than he can't beat a C'Tan.
You also need to provide citations that the energy released is infinite.
I feel it's also worth mentioning that I'm only going to debate [url=http://www.dragonballinsider.com/canon-vs-non-canon/]canon Goku[/url] because only canon matters.
[quote]Hed teleport them to the afterlife and he'll have no power[/quote]
Citation needed. Regardless. There is no afterlife in the Eternal Sphere, and C'tan can't be removed from the Universe without destroying it.
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Irrelevant, Luther would prevent it. The only way is to have specific symbological abilities written into your dna. Which Goku doesn't have. And he'd be deleted before he tried. Also, Citation is still needed.
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Again. Citation needed. This is how the battle would play out: He would appear before the Enforcer, it would begin the process the moment he appeared. All he would see is a bunch of symbols in space. He'd have no idea what's going on. Then he'd be gone. The process would take 23 seconds. That's how long he has to gather the energy to attempt to stop The Enforcer. It's takes him significantly longer than that to create a spirit bomb (which he has to stand still for in order to focus it properly) if memory serves. Which is what powers the Super Dragon Fist. He has no method of finding or accessing Luther, which I've already explained. It isn't a fight. It's Luther deleting him with a keyboard. Which would take less than a minute.
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Doctor Coxにより編集済み: 2/12/2015 6:58:21 PM[quote]He can use the super dragon fist without charging a spirit bomb[/quote] Citation needed. From what I've seen the attack is what happens when he attempts to use spirit bomb in super saiyan form. Which takes time to charge. [quote]He'd sense what the enforcer is doing and obliterate him[/quote] You still have provided 0 proof that he can provide the necessary power required. So no, he can't. And he can't sense what they do. Also, he has 23 seconds to attempt anything. On a side note, unless he has a defense for being aged a trillion years instantaneously the C'tan would kill him instantaneously.
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[quote]Against Hirudegarn be didn't charge it He charged it once against super 13 23 seconds is a long time for Goku[/quote] That movie isn't canon. (The only movie that is officially canon is battle of the gods.) Judging from the scene that attack is nowhere near powerful enough to destroy an Enforcer, also Hirudegarn was weakened when he hit him with it. So it wouldn't matter even if it was canon. Not really. Most battles last at least an hour overall. Other than movie ones, which generally aren't canon.
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An hour of show time You're not counting the cinematic timing Goku and Vegeta had a whole fight in a heartbeat Super dragon fist obliterated omega Shenron which ranked an attack that has the stopping power of 200,000+ dimensional walls
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[quote]An hour of show time You're not counting the cinematic timing Goku and Vegeta had a whole fight in a heartbeat Super dragon fist obliterated omega Shenron which ranked an attack that has the stopping power of 200,000+ dimensional walls[/quote] An hour of show time showing them fighting. Especially the Freeza fight. Except neither of them are on Enforcer or C'tan level. Citation needed. Also, if it's in GT it's irrelevant because it isn't canon. Also, he killed Omega Shenron with the Universal Spirit Bomb. Which took longer than 23 seconds to charge.
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[quote]And the super dragon fist obliterated him he regenerated though[/quote] I just watched that attack. It took too long. When he hit Shenron it took well over 23 seconds for the attack to completely annihilate him. He'd be in the middle of of it as he ceased to exist.
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[quote]Cinematic timing, the Attack was faster than light[/quote] I could say the exact same thing about The Enforcer's deletion attack, but I won't because that isn't a legitimate argument, you should do the same. Not in the show it wasn't, there was no evidence to show that. Unless you can provide an alternate source for the battle that's what it'll be based off of.
