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GouldBerg988により編集済み:
1/14/2015 9:22:31 AM
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Iron Banner is Living proof that the Crota-cheat hurt PvP
So I played IB yesterday a fair amount (20+ games) and come to the Conclusion that most 32s you will come across in IB are people who exploited the hell out of Crota`s End.
I also feel that the Leveladvantage between 32 and 31 is real, anybody that has enough crucible experience under their belt will agree to that fact. You need on average at least one more shot to get in than your opponent who has the Leveladvantage.
The sheer number of Exploiters is really annoying. You get almost 50% of 32s in the Lobby and this number will rise on the weekend. I urge any below 30s to stay away from IB, for the sake of their mental healthiness.
How come I can tell that most 32`s are Cheaters?
From the 25 people I looked up that showed unregular performance (meaning why they have on average between 0.8-1.2 in Crucible they managed to almost double that kd in the games with/against me, only 4 had completed the patched Raid at all, while their stats showed that the week before they had multiple clears with multiple groups with the typical sign that they used Giveawaycheckpoints and the DC (everyone in the team around 20 kills etc.).
Does anybody, especially 30s and 31s have a similar/contradictory experience?
EDIT 1: Funny how the 32s-Cheatfaction is entering this thread and defending its "honor". Most negative comments are of the type:
"You stupid if you thinky thinky all 32 are cheaters"
Then when I reply:
"You stupid for thinky thinky your stats could hide your true colors"
They reply
"You butthurt for looking at stats"
Just keep coming and confirming to all that you are not only bad at the game, but also bad in covering your tracks.
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I'm horrible at PvP ( coming from a guy who's motto is pray and spray) but great at pve. I'll admit I've chessed him before. But I've done him legit as well and great at killing him. My duties rotate even. Don't use PvP kd as an excuse. My kd is always around .80 because im a casual gamer. I ain't no fake 32. I got all my gear legit. Only times I cheesed, I'd already got the loot and only helping friends.
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Big_Zimmにより編集済み: 1/14/2015 11:07:10 PMThe reset was yesterday, give people more time to run CE. I know I personally won't have the raid finished till the weekend. I ran through it up until the Deathsinger but I just ran out of time. Between Nightfalls, Weeklies and life it's hard to get everything done in one day. Finishing the raid legit requires a squad of 6 people. I'd guess that most run it on the weekends, when the majority of their friends are home and able to play. edit: just because someone is good at PVE it doesn't guarantee they'll be good in PVP. I personally feel I'm a good Raider but not as good in the crucible.
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1 返信I have 2 32's Do raids every week. No cheese. I'm mainly a pve player. Don't care much for pvp. Played some iron banner to help friends. Used hawk moon. We won most games my k/d that I could care less about was always between .90 to 1.20 with a average of about 16-18 kill a game. What are you trying to say ??
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IrishTheSavageにより編集済み: 1/14/2015 11:06:54 PMnot even that bro most PVErs dont PVP so they go into the Iron banner thinking we are gonna stay down like crota.. but they sure are wrong! level 31 here and i own level 32's Thorn ,Vex users.. wearing twinsie Raid gear cheating to me is.. bringing hacked items.. and stuff like that so.. don't complain and dont assume everyone cheesed Crota either
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1 返信You posit an interesting theory but I think your sample data is lacking. The patch has only been out one day. Perhaps these 32s you lost to haven't had time to do the raid yet this week because they were too busy playing Iron Banner yesterday?
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Dunno man. But my kid just hauled off 38 kills on a 3.75 K/D in IB. He's pretty good at pvp though. He jumped in to wax ass on levels who's guns don't match their gear. I think if a 32 isn't very good at pvp, his level won't matter for nada. He's gonna get smoked. That being said, I think Iron Banner is when all the pve guys take a turn at pvp, and true pvp'ers run a slaughter-house like killing fish in a barrel. I'm not referring to myself as a pvp'er, I'm more the fish in the barrel type in the crucible. ;)
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My PvP stats have nothing to do with my approach to the raid....It is rather funny that you would come to this sort of conclusion. Just because I am bad at PvP I can't do a raid legit? The logic here is dumbfounding.
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The raid goes faster doing it legit. Takes 20 min, its a -blam!-ing joke. Why does everyone assume people glitched Crota??? This raid is a -blam!-ing kids playground....get a good team, and you will be surprised how easy it is.
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2 通の返信SuBpeRBzSkiLLzにより編集済み: 1/14/2015 6:29:39 PMFirst of all: Who didn't at least attempt to cheese Crota? Second: You should be rank 4 Eris already and have at least 1 level 32. Third: Crota's End is very easy and can be soloed except for the bridge now. [spoiler]Yes, I soloed it on my Hunter[/spoiler]
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2 通の返信There's not much difference between 30-32. In my opinion, real problem is the concept of iron banner and the gear. It brings non PvPers out of the wood work for a chance at gear which screws with the team dynamic.
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I'm not a 32 and I think your just Butthurt. Omg it's not a level playing field so I must complain and cry about it. You should know that when it wasn't balanced like crucible that the 32's were coming for your Rudy Poo Candy @ss Have fun losing in ib
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1 返信Level 30. Dont notice any difference at all in how strong any of my oponents are except maybe in supers. Dont notice any difference in gun strength but I have occasionally taken a hit from say, a level 20 voidwalkers super and was able to scamper away. And just what I noticed, a lot of raiders usually suck at pvp anyway. So even if they do have a (slight) advantage it probably wont be able to cover their lack of skill/exp. in the crucible. (I just say that because a lot of 32s end up at the bottom of the board and I have a few friends that raid a lot but just suck at pvp).
