45% revenue miss, I’d say with how many people dropped off after lightfall it must be a lot. The whole “make destiny challenging again” was a miss for a majority of the community which probably explains the massive miss bungie had because a huge amount of the player base has dropped off. Not just because of lightfall but because there’s been so many solid AAA releases this year. I think it’ll get worse come next season if it’s really going to be 6-7 months long if the final shape delay is in-fact legit.

Harder content is NOT made new players, lol What do you expect, is made for veterans of the game and eventually it promotes new players getting better so you can do end game activities.

One thing that would be better for Destiny moving forward is to stop focusing on 6 player raids and focus on better and more 3 player dungeons/raids. Raids take massive amounts of time and development for an event that a very small part of the player base even plays. Most don't have 6 guardians consistently or don't prefer to do lfg. If this focus went more on 3 player based raids/dungeons they would be easier to develop and more attractive to a wider range of the player base. And the simple fact that most people would rather play activities as a trio. Its just a better co-op experience and easy to have a consistent fireteam.

Nothing in this game is hard

They need to go back to Destiny1 with more choices, easy, normal, hard, legendary, master... Some people want to play like it was Halo, gun blazing master Chief fun.

A friendly reminder for making things easier What happened to year 1 in destiny 2? We had no random rolls, nothing to chase and all the casuals that were playing, they beat the story and all quit at the end.

Nope, what Bungie did was remove all the Middle-Difficulty options. With lightfall, they made legend much closer to Master and Heroic much closer to base. Legend used to be the difficulty where you could still be challenged but enemies couldn’t one-shot you. Where builds could really shine at point where they weren’t pointless like lower tiers but could still function and thrive unlike higher tiers. Legend became a slog while Heroic became a joke. Higher tier players don’t have their easier but still engaging content anymore. Casuals don’t have that aspirational but still achievable content. The gulf between east and hard has never been wider with no difficulty or content to bridge the gap.

I actually have no idea what you are talking about, so i'm going to reply to the one sentence that actually makes sense in this untethered stream of thoughts you posted. [quote]Harder content isnt good for new players[/quote] Yes, harder content is not good for new players. Hence why we have normal mode.

Id rather have no revive token hard mode raids back actually those actually stood a real challenge and real rewards No revive tokens you needed to stay alive

GMs are the best endgame content in the game. They may not be the set pieces that raids and dungeons are... but it's a space that is rewarding & challenging... but still extremely accessible. All you need is skill... you don't need a clan... you don't need to be on the crest of every new release or risk being locked out. Without a sherpa... it's hard for new players to learn older content, because 1-2 weeks post release the expectation is that you're experienced... and acquiesce to the constrained and limited meta (These guns, these loadouts... this way). So, it is my belief, that applying the GM design philosophy to other content... IS EXACTLY what this game needs MORE of. More things like tier 7 deep dives, tier 3 altars, & Legendary Haunted Sectors... they provide the opportunity for growth and accessibility that is only limited by the players' individual skill. If you can "hang"... you can use and play how YOU want. Tldr, I disagree 😇 👍💠 I can play GMs however I want. Why? Because I've developed the skills in order to do so. The other night I joined a Moon BG GM... the times I've done it previously we just stay in for the ghost cap. And my team left me in there... I died... it was a nightmare, they soaked 5 rezs getting me up. Dude types in text chat, "Warlock looking cute right now". We end up wiping that run. It was my 1st run on 😁. Next 2 runs... I'm grabbing his rez over & over. I probably prevent 10 wipes over those runs getting both up... I wouldn't say I carried, but without me those clears ain't happening... and I wasn't on Invis, or Well, or BoW... any of the stuff tubers say you should use for that BG. Any raid I get kicked before the encounter even starts... In GMs you can tell in about 2 mins if someone has chops... regardless of loadout or weapons. Which, unlike other endgame, allows me to experiment and play exactly how I want. It's ironic, because a lot of the quote best PvE players dunk on GMs for being uninspired... artificial difficulty, I find it to be the exact opposite. It allows me in less than 20 minutes actually achieve real progress... refining my ideas & skillset ... with generous loot. And all it requires as a solo player is the skill & knowledge to do so. I can run what I want, I can play how I want. And even though, objectively... outside of contest, the most difficult content in the game. Other Destiny endgame is different, less challenging, less accessible... and so cookie cutter. That's "uninspired" to me.