Me pve goon. Me hop control and play 3 match for pinny. Me enjoy game now bcuz bungie hide all good player from me. - Simpleton PvE goons

Then you won’t be upset if a ritual gets added to an exclusive PvP pool then if it makes no difference to you. After all it’s just a PvP weapon and you’re in PvP for three matches and not chasing PvP rituals

Your head is so far up your own aśs you can’t even notice sarcasm.

I’m a PvP main. I was mocking the pve goons for exactly the reason you just commented. These trashcans would lose their minds if good weapons were added to comp again.

There was some issue however when Pinnacle PvP weapons were also SUPER good in PvE too like Recluse and Mountaintop. Master of Arms was kinda ridiculous, and the current Frenzy Funnelweb lookalike doesn't come close to that previous level of damage output as an example.

Idk why they don’t just have a separate list of what you can use in PvP and what you can run in PvE. I mean they did disable Quicksilver Storm in PvP but you can use it almost everywhere else. If it’s that simple idk why they couldn’t implement that across the board. So what if we have a PvP loadout and a PvE loadout. I don’t see the big deal. It’s no different than having multiple formats in card games. Why not multiple formats in Destiny?

I suppose it would make players even more angry. Angry that this cool weapon they earned in Nightfalls is too Broken for PvP, or that this PvP weapon they earned through Glory or Trials is too broken for Raids when they can use it in Strikes or Dungeons all they want.

It’s about how it’s executed. PvE Sandbox (have your exclusives here in regards to PvE) Have your various common drops here be useable anywhere Seasonal or Open World Sandbox (weapons that can be used anywhere regardless) Self explanatory imo. You can use Gambit as a PvEvP where we start seeing some rituals or pinnacles being allowed here for players to use ignoring the restrictions. After all gambit is supposed to be that middle ground experience right? PvP Sandbox (PvP exclusives here) Your common PvP weapons that can be used anywhere And then your rituals or pinnacles exclusive to this playlist

It's a decent idea, but I feel it goes against what Destiny's loot is meant to be and from a developer viewpoint, likely to become more trouble than it's worth when we now have the ability to balance weapons for PvE and PvP separately. The specific issue with Quicksilver right now is that you can become invincible. In PvE this means you can survive wipe mechanics, and obviously being invincible in PvP is not good for everyone who isn't you. Vaulted weapons being vaulted is a very unfun experience though, however in that same note that provides a similar fix to the issue we're talking about: Light Level activities. Outside of Trials, Crucible doesn't give af about your light level so you can still use Mountaintop and Recluse today while being pretty useless in any activity above the minimum light level, even Adept Nightfalls would screw you over for damage on a weapon locked at 1350 power level.

Is light level advantages still an active thing in Gambit? I can’t remember if they turned that on or off…

They turned it off, but at the same time broke it for a week or two by allowing PvE damage multipliers during the PvP invasions if you remember the Eriana's Hell Week a few seasons ago.

I agree. Levelheaded people get drowned out in favor of Fortnite babies wanting a larger amount of easy boring content/cosmetics . I liked the Forsaken year the best, pinnacles were amazing.