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5/23/2021 12:04:12 AM
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Atheon is overtuned garbage
This fight is nowhere even close to the way it functioned in D1. Convoluted oracles mechanic with 3 phases when in portal, 700 supplicants and ranged harpys that teleport, atheon doing the cha cha slide to the right and avoiding damage, and not to mention Atheon randomly selecting a detain target mid dps that will wipe your team in 2 seconds if you dont locate the debuff amidst the 15 other buffs on the side of your screen. The biggest -blam!- you of all is locking the emblem behind challenge mode which is probably even more of a crap shoot at Atheon. GG Bungo, you ruined VoG.
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23 通の返信Sohsuhにより編集済み: 5/24/2021 7:04:50 PMConvoluted oracles? Is this what happens when television, movies, and music are dumbed down? People just deteriorate into moths. Atheons room is literally the exact same as the portal room. The oracles spawn in Atheons room in the exact same location that they spawn in portal. You just have to relay the information to the portal team. How do people even find this difficult? There's only 3 at a time. Can you really not relay the information to the portal team? How is that convoluted at all? I feel like I am in another dimension. It's incredibly simple. I mean jesus, what the hell is going on? The rooms are identical, 3 oracles spawn, relay the information. That is so simple it's not even funny. Atheon lifts his arms when he puts a debuff on somebody, the detainment debuff is at the top of the list on the left of your screen. The relic holder can turn around and see a person glowing red. How do people even find this difficult? Seriously?
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9 通の返信So you’re salty because you failed to get a challenge mode emblem. Got it. Better luck next time young Wolf.
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1 返信PVP SUXにより編集済み: 5/26/2021 1:21:42 AMWhy not just call it for what it is! Grindfest 2.0 (Vault of a**) Most game modes and events only revolves around grinding. Grind a raid, nope, did not get what i wanted, grind again, nope, not this time either. Are there anyone that have reached +100 times in VOG yet? I bet there are Are you happy, does it feel good knowing that you wasted +100 hrs on something that has no meaning whatsoever? And in the end you get a nerfed underwhelming pos that you later on rant on this forum. What would Youtube do without Destiny i wonder!
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18 通の返信I think you’re making a big deal about nothing, the raid is artificial anyways, since they brought it down to 1300 for Day One. This is one thing that snowflakes can’t get away with. The raid has been fun, hard, but fun. Now that challenge mode is over with, we can approach with out current light levels and it is vastly easier. As a matter of fact, I bet you’re not complaining now, huh? ...in the event that you’re complaining after the challenge, than perhaps Raiding isn’t your thing, stick to Patrols.
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11 通の返信All I know is I raided my ass off in D1 because the raids were just challenging enough to be fun with a random group. D2 raids just seem stressful...if I wanted to study mechanics I'd be a physicist. I was hoping VoG would come back as the chill, yet fun raid I completed.
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3 通の返信The detain affecting everyone around you is absolute insanity. They already changed detain from D1 earlier in the raid so you can't break out of it yourself. Now they decided to step it up more by making it affect other players around you. Makes literally no sense why bungie constantly wants to stack changes. It's just like how they tend to nerf overpowered items or abilities. Instead of changing one thing to push it towards balance, they instead adjust 3-5 things at once that each sound like a small change, but overall have a massive impact, nerfing the item or ability into the ground.
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1 返信[quote]This fight is nowhere even close to the way it functioned in D1. Convoluted oracles mechanic with 3 phases when in portal, 700 supplicants and ranged harpys that teleport, atheon doing the cha cha slide to the right and avoiding damage, and not to mention Atheon randomly selecting a detain target mid dps that will wipe your team in 2 seconds if you dont locate the debuff amidst the 15 other buffs on the side of your screen. The biggest -blam!- you of all is locking the emblem behind challenge mode which is probably even more of a crap shoot at Atheon. GG Bungo, you ruined VoG.[/quote] I got all armor two chest peices two arms and one legs then at gatekeepers dropped fatebringer pve god roll then beat atheon got the dupe chest peice and used spoils for a pvp god roll fatebringer. Nobody on my fireteam got vex. Raid isnt that bad though. You will get it. Might not be very rewarding though. Lol
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5 通の返信Sounds like you just have no ability to adapt. 1-2 guys running witherhoard annihilates the supplicants. All of the ranged harpies can be killed before Atheon pulls people in with scout rifles and/or snipers. Atheon can be killed easily just by spamming grenades, supers, and anarchy at him with breach and clear. This also allows your players to spread out so 1 supplicant isn't killing multiple people and detainment only hits 1 guy. Whoever does oracle callouts on the outside can stand up on the back wall and doesn't have to worry about getting hit by supplicants at all.
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3 通の返信So you're not good enough to get the Emblem but others are so you come to the forums to moan about how overly complicated the mechanics are (which they aren't)
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GIVE EM HELLBOY You make some valid points and I agree that eververse must be removed from this game but, Whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather, he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank just outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold
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2 通の返信Agreed. Why bring back an old raid just to change it? Just make a new one at that point. They said they wanted it to feel like D1 VoG day 1 but that was fun this is just pain.
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D1 raids don't belong in this game with the way things are set up and because of how things are set up I won't touch any of them. They offer a half-assed experience of what the D1 raids actually offered that they are not worth the time spent running them other than just running them for the sake of it. [spoiler]D2 loot system literally sucks that most of the loot is not worth the time acquiring. The RNG with the multiple duplicates is garbage that we end up wasting a hell of a lot of time dismantling literally thousands of items through the entire game. Most of the gear in this game drops with crapy stats. You can't even tell the difference between the soft cap to the hard cap. The artifact is used to control what the players use. The raids don't have a full set of raid loot.[/spoiler] From the looks of it, they took a fun casual raid that was worth the time spent running and made it stressful. [b](Here is something many are not even thinking about at the moment.)[/b] [spoiler]Bungie's P2P that a lot of players will get booted from the raid because of their broken net codding. Players that will boot other players from their raid group at the end of the raid before they can collect their reward unless Bungie fixed that? Players leaving a raid group because of the stress that will most likely happen a hell of a lot at the Templar becase of how many times the group will have to wipe. Players stealing checkpoints, leaving the group hanging. The LFG is going to be a nightmare, etc... [/spoiler] I feel sorry for random groups that are going to run this VOG becase things are going to be a lot worse than D1 VoG. IMO Bringing back Vex mythoclast I won't be surprised if the same BS that happened in D1 will happen in D2. Bungie will make it OP to get the players to chase that carrot then It will get the nerf treatment because of PvP players crying as usual that "it killed me" and Bungie will use that being fully aware that they deliberately made it OP to give that carrot to chase only to plan on nerfing it anyway.
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1 返信[quote]This fight is nowhere even close to the way it functioned in D1. Convoluted oracles mechanic with 3 phases when in portal[/quote] New. [Quote]700 supplicants and ranged harpys that teleport[/quote] Did you do VoG in D1 more than once? That's exactly what it was like in D1 except the harpies, 700 billion supplicants where if you stepped off of the pillar you'd immediately die. [Quote]atheon doing the cha cha slide to the right and avoiding damage[/quote] Atheon did this a lot in D1 as well. [Quote]and not to mention Atheon randomly selecting a detain target mid dps that will wipe your team in 2 seconds if you dont locate the debuff amidst the 15 other buffs on the side of your screen[/quote] Sounds like a personal problem. [Quote]The biggest -blam!- you of all is locking the emblem behind challenge mode which is probably even more of a crap shoot at Atheon. GG Bungo, you ruined VoG.[/quote] The day one emblem requires that you adhere to the same rules as the day one worlds first race like always? NO WAY!
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2 通の返信GalaxySpiderにより編集済み: 5/23/2021 6:21:11 AMFunny how you people complain about something being too hard, yet after contest day it gets easy as -blam!- obviously, just like Aksis in DSC. Aksis became so easy they even had to swap out 2 shanks on each side with 2 sniper-shanks, to somehow kill the players. Ads + power cap below the activity are the main problem during contest mode, as always, but the bosses or mechanics are fine. I actually love the new changes because it forces teamplay and prevents camping (Templar). It feels like a Raid now. Stop crying and play it tomorrow if you want to get your receycled, rose tinted and nostalgic guns and armor.
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14 通の返信Atheon was extremely easy in D1. This actually brings a challenge to the fight. Deal with it
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16 通の返信They told you it wasn’t going to be exactly the same, it isn’t exactly the same, I don’t see why there’s confusion here
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4 通の返信Tough of challenge, but it's doable. It's a very easy 2 phase I assume now that contest is off
