dude, 140/150 HC were amazing in y1 and when was the last time you consistently saw them? Almost never because they nerfed them and added bs bloom. My nerfing to the ground comment isnt strictly just for LH & NF - almost every weapon that bungie "adjusts" ends up fading into darkness because it becomes no longer viable and other items are just the clear cut choice. Give it time - something else will dethrone them and people will complain about that one next.

Really? Because sleeper, queens breaker, whisper, telesto, shotguns, graviton, wardcliff. All these weapons that everyone so called got "nerfed to the ground" is bs. They're all still good. The second there's a change to anything, there's an instant uproar of "oh my God! This gun is useless now! Bungie why would you do this!? So again, re-read the post bungie made, and stop blowing everything out of proportion.